<VV> Media coverage
Carlton Smith
carlton55 at comcast.net
Mon Jun 28 10:01:53 EDT 2010
Hi John,
Don't know what time you went to the Suds on Saturday the 19th. Corvairs
were certainly there from 4:00pm on until they all went back to the various
hotels. Sunday we all lined up on the access road to the hotels at 8:00am
and left fairly promptly for Cedar Rapids. All of this timing was as planned
and went well. The party at Skillman's museum was a blast!
Coverage of the Caravan party and at the Suds was cover well by Corvairwild
(Andrew Golt) on YouTube. Andrew arrived to the party at Skillman's just in
time to video us leaving for the Suds. He later made 5 videos of the cars at
the Suds that night, including the corvairs.
Carlton Smith
Circle City Corvairs- Vice Pres.
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From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Johnjackson
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 8:46 AM
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> Media coverage
I guess I should also apolagize for this also. I know you guys don't
know me, but I am a automotive freelance journalist who is also a avid
corvair owner. I had every intention of attending the convention while
on my two month road trip in my companys 64 van. I tried to meet up
with the group traveling from Indy on two different occasions I went
to the suds cruise night and there where no vairs there and I tried to
meet up with them at one of the hotels Sunday am but again no vairs to
be found. As I was getting ready to leave a show in Indy that evening
for Iowa one of my editors asked me if I could go to louisville ky and
shoot some HotRods for there publication so that's why I didn't make
the event. I had planned on submitting the images to a couple of the
editors who are publishing my roadtrip to show how active the corvair
owners still are. Again I apolagize for not making the convention, and
would also like to thank Richard gebphardt in Nashville Tn for all the
help in changing out the rr axle. So far I have been over 3500 miles
since June 6th and plan to stay on the road till august sometime. So
if there are any other good vair events going on please feel free to
share them.
John Jackson
www.NotStockPhotography.com
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> 1. Brake woes (wsan159401 at aol.com)
> 2. Re: hardly running (Michael Kovacs)
> 3. Re: Brake woes (Dennis Pleau)
> 4. Re: media coverage (Gary Moore)
> 5. Re: Brake woes (Michael Kovacs)
> 6. Re: Special wheel CENTER FIT (Tony Underwood)
> 7. Press coverage (Wrsssatty at aol.com)
> 8. Convention Highlights (levair at aol.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 18:19:15 -0400
> From: wsan159401 at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> Brake woes
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <8CCE45DE9C19B3F-450-212EE at webmail-d012.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
> I have recently installed a dual master cylinder in my 1965 Corsa
> and am having a problem with the brakes. They work too well! I have
> only driven the car twice since the install. At the same time I also
> added steel braided brake lines to replace the original old rubber
> ones and Kevlar lined shoes. The second time I drove the car, as I
> was returning home, I noticed that it was getting harder and harder
> to get the car moving from a stop. Eventually the brake pedal would
> not depress as it seemed to be stuck in the totally up position. I
> ended up trailering the car the last few miles home. When I got the
> car up on stands the drums were very hard to remove. It seems that I
> had assembled everthing correctly as I checked against a set of
> brakes from another Corvair. However the front wheel cylinders were
> both leaking so I replaced them with new units. After re-assembling
> everything and bleeding the system I tried rotating the hubs,
> without wheels on them, and had a lot of drag. I ha
> d done the hard/harder test to make sure there was no leakage prior
> to spinning the
> drums. Because of the drag I pulled the drums off again, with
> difficulty. At that point, I noticed that the top of the shoes where
> were not in contact with the pivot pin and I could not push on the
> shoes hard enough by hand to cause the wheel cylinder pins to to
> retract into the wheel cylinder. It seems that there may be
> something in the master cylinder that is not allowing the fluid to
> return into to master. Anyone have any experience like this or some
> good ideas for me to follow up on?
>
> Bill Sanders
> Silicon Valley CORSA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Michael Kovacs <kovacsmj at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> hardly running
> To: Kirk Johnson <ragstheratrodrampside at yahoo.com>,
> virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <189444.94907.qm at web82003.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> I'd check timing and compression first and of course that both carbs
> are attached to the cross shaft. Try a different coil if you have an
> extra.This costs nothing.
> ?MIKE KOVACS
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kirk Johnson <ragstheratrodrampside at yahoo.com>
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 1:43:02 PM
> Subject: <VV> hardly running
>
> I got home from convention OK.? Having a starter issue ring gear?)
> but my smooth running engine ain't any more/? I got 14 to 17 mph all
> through the convention trip. Got home and? it won't idle and won't
> accelerate.? Fuel pump??? Tell me where to start.? Thanks
>
> Kirk Johnson
> 1964 Rampside
> De Soto,KS
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:45:40 -0700
> From: "Dennis Pleau" <dpleau at wavecable.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Brake woes
> To: <wsan159401 at aol.com>, <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Message-ID: <006401cb164a$782e43c0$688acb40$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> The push rod between the pedal and the piston in the master cylinder
> is too
> long. Most of them are adjustable.
>
> dp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of wsan159401 at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:19 PM
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: <VV> Brake woes
>
>
> I have recently installed a dual master cylinder in my 1965 Corsa
> and am
> having a problem with the brakes. They work too well! I have only
> driven the
> car twice since the install. At the same time I also added steel
> braided
> brake lines to replace the original old rubber ones and Kevlar lined
> shoes.
> The second time I drove the car, as I was returning home, I noticed
> that it
> was getting harder and harder to get the car moving from a stop.
> Eventually
> the brake pedal would not depress as it seemed to be stuck in the
> totally up
> position. I ended up trailering the car the last few miles home.
> When I got
> the car up on stands the drums were very hard to remove. It seems
> that I had
> assembled everthing correctly as I checked against a set of brakes
> from
> another Corvair. However the front wheel cylinders were both leaking
> so I
> replaced them with new units. After re-assembling everything and
> bleeding
> the system I tried rotating the hubs, without wheels on them, and
> had a lot
> of drag. I ha
> d done the hard/harder test to make sure there was no leakage prior to
> spinning the
> drums. Because of the drag I pulled the drums off again, with
> difficulty. At
> that point, I noticed that the top of the shoes where were not in
> contact
> with the pivot pin and I could not push on the shoes hard enough by
> hand to
> cause the wheel cylinder pins to to retract into the wheel cylinder.
> It
> seems that there may be something in the master cylinder that is not
> allowing the fluid to return into to master. Anyone have any
> experience like
> this or some good ideas for me to follow up on?
>
> Bill Sanders
> Silicon Valley CORSA
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:58:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gary Moore <tdrinkr at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> media coverage
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <726629.79156.qm at web31307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Back in 1971 Charles Kuralt did a piece at the first convention in
> Chicago. The video is available at the Vanderbilt Television News
> Archives, but to download it you must be a member of the press and
> there is a fee.?http://tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/program.pl?ID=218223
> There are several unidentified Corvair Owners interviewed, these
> owners can probably be identified by CORSA members.
> It would be a good addition to CPF if someone has the credentials to
> download it.?GMooreHACOA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:07:15 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Michael Kovacs <kovacsmj at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Brake woes
> To: Dennis Pleau <dpleau at wavecable.com>, wsan159401 at aol.com,
> virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <345892.86176.qm at web82008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> That might do it. The brake pedal should have about 1 inch free play
> or so.?I don't remember the exact amount.
> ?MIKE KOVACS
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dennis Pleau <dpleau at wavecable.com>
> To: wsan159401 at aol.com; virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 6:45:40 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Brake woes
>
> The push rod between the pedal and the piston in the master cylinder
> is too
> long.? Most of them are adjustable.
>
> dp
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of wsan159401 at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:19 PM
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Subject: <VV> Brake woes
>
>
> ..................I have recently installed a dual master cylinder
> in my 1965 Corsa and am
> having a problem with the brakes.....................
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:52:55 -0400
> From: Tony Underwood <tony.underwood at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Special wheel CENTER FIT
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20100627204235.035c3ef0 at pop.east.cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> At 02:46 PM 6/27/2010, Matt Nall wrote:
>
>
>
>> What about all those aftermarket aluminum wheels out there that had
>> NO center hub support at all?
>> Cragar wheels come to mind, also Keystones and ET alloys. None of
>> these wheels had any center hub fit. They never seemed to be any
>> trouble at all, including those 4-lug ET wheels that ended up on
>> early 'Vairs.
>> tony..
>>
>> ===================================
>>
>> You save your $$$... you take your chances....
>>
>> ignorance is bliss??? LOL! [ grin]
>>
>>
>> Matt Nall
>
>
>
>
> Remember: Those Cragar SS wheels (along with the others) ARE DOT
> approved. Nobody was taking any chances using those wheels. And
> who the Hell ever thought that buying a set of Cragar SS wheels would
> SAVE you money over the factory steel stampings?
>
> Explain to me like I was 12 how running Cragar SS wheels would "save"
> me money by "taking a chance".
>
>
> I ran Cragar SS wheels on my musclecar for a decade and never had a
> minute's trouble out of them, and neither did anyone else I ever knew
> who ran them. ;) That included countless 450hp holeshots with 12"
> wide tires on the back and the wheels never complained nor did I ever
> break a stud.
>
>
>
> tony..
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:56:09 EDT
> From: Wrsssatty at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> Press coverage
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <94f5.67dc325b.39594d29 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> <also old media is kinda pass?. New
> Media including Social Media does a great job of covering niche
> stories, just check out corvairwild on Youtube or this medium we're
> using right here!>
>
> I think the idea is to get some publicity for the hobby, not preach
> to the
> choir.
>
> ~Bill Stanley
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:44:51 -0400
> From: levair at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> Convention Highlights
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org, fastvair at yahoogroups.com,
> Yenko108 at hotmail.com, mcvair at sbcglobal.net, hljensen at comcast.net
> Message-ID: <8CCE4723F6A2747-1870-149F5 at webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Convention Highlights
>
> The convention highlights for me were many blessings. I don?t have
> any hard results now, so for now, just have opinions.
> We had about 30 entries at the Marshalltown Kart Track. There
> just
> isn?t a better venue for Corvair Solo racers. It?s a wide track with
> 2nd and 3rd gear coneless corners and straights.. The track doubles
> back so that spectators can view it all. There were many great
> competitiors, but I don?t have results. I do remember Mark Aksamit
> driving a very recently purchased stock late like a mad man. There was
> a real battle of the earlies with Jim Dallas coming out on top. Of
> most
> interest to me was the intense rivalry of David Clemens and my son
> Michael. Since the inception of the Marshalltown track, the record for
> FTD has changed from 79.3, to 78.0, to 76.0, and now to 75.3(by
> Michael). The bar has been raised by the new 3.0 and 3.1 liter (seven
> cylinder?) engines. They both have all steel cars, and massive tires.
> Michael won this one by .030 seconds. David had to hand the Tweety to
> Michael. I was about .3 seconds behind the racy duo; in other words?no
> place.
> Of special interest to me was the volunteer workers; Clark Hartzel,
> Sandy Dallas, Laurie Aksamit, and Barbara Emerson. Barbara did not
> get officially recognized-until now; thanks Barb.
> Michael?s all steel car (YSR160) is a replica of the Stinger that
> I road raced in the 70s and wrote about in ?Ancient History?. I still
> get chills every time that I see it.
> On the trip from Marshalltown Sharon had a blow out on the right
> rear of her Buick Rendezvous. She was towing the little open red
> Roadster on a single axle trailer in a five vehicle caravan. A piece
> of metal as large as the blade of a 6? hunting knife went through the
> tire. She got it safely to the roadside and as I was getting the
> temporary spare out good samaritans from a home on the roadside, came
> to our aid with a jack and a battery impact wrench. Upon thaking
> them ,
> the wished me a happy Father?s day. Sharon did a great job of towing
> to Cedar Rapids on the tiny spare. The tire was replaced Monday for
> $165.
> I was looking forward to the assembly of a band at the convention.
> The proposed band members had only communicated via others via e
> mail; so didn?t know one another. Our method of contact was for me to
> make noise and see if the musicians would come out of the woodwork.
> Phil Raker was first; he is a professional violinist. I am strictly an
> amateur, so am easily out done. As a matter of fact, I was refused the
> grand piano because I wasn?t a professional. Our only plan was to play
> the Corvair ?National Anthem? ??See the USA in your Chevrolet? and the
> Cavemen Anthem?Alley Oop (look at that cave man go!) We had exchanged
> that sheet music by e mail. I had an amp with me just for a surprise
> singer and we had one named Marlene for a while. A couple of 8 year
> old girls also played the piano. While playing I was able to stop and
> visit with many who passed by. I?d rather talk than play anyway.
> One of the times I was stopped was to go see the metal model of
> the
> Bill Thomas/Doug Roe vintage car. Sharon and I were absolutely blown
> away!!!
> Barry Burkmans?s attention to detail was absolutely amazing! It was
> another unexpected blessing.
> Phil and I practiced several songs of every genre once, but I
> never
> saw the others until 5:00 before the Banquet. I got back form the
> autocross at 5:00. Ernie Sanders (Sax) and Beth Tibbetts ( blue grass
> mandolin) were professional and picked up immediately. What a
> blessing!
> There were several events for the ladies, which Sharon helped plan.
> I know that Sharon went to a quilting session and two cooking
> sessions.
> We hope that this trend continues for future conventions. Having a
> happy wife with you is a wonderful thing. Sharon got to display her
> (our) quilt on the back of the piano. The award winning quilt was a
> pictorial history( birth day present) of all of my cars and family. I
> enjoyed the Raffle quilts very much also.
> We have almost always had out teen age grandchildren with us at
> conventions, but this time they were unable to attend at the last
> moment. One of the first persons that I saw was Laura Gundlach who
> is
> a close personal friend of the grandchildren. I adopted Laura as a
> granddaughter for the week by giving here a ride in the Roadster.
> Laura
> is an adorable 19 year old who had only driven a standard transmission
> in a tractor.
> Laura is a quick learner , did exactly as instructed, and made
> large improvements on every run. She even drove the parade lap for
> practice. Laura obviously had her own cheering section.
> Since the competition car incorrectly ran the last heat, I had a
> lot
> of time to watch events. I sat in the grandstand with the huge crown
> of spectators and watched them rave, holler/yell, and applaud at the
> daring finishes. People loved the Rob Bradley/Seth Emerson course.
> Mark Aksamit wowed every one again in his heat. Ray Laugh?s car won
> one of the heats---he was dancing for joy. Seth Emerson won overall in
> Harlan Colburn?s 383 CID Supercharged 2000# convertible with times in
> the 35 bracket. David Clemens beat Michael this time with a low
> 37---.3 under Michael. I barely nipped my son for a change. Tracy,
> Laura, and Ryan won their groups with Ryan gleefully beating his
> father. I beat myself by using an autocross specific transmission?it
> was perfect for Marshalltown. . I had to shift to fourth on the back
> straight because 3rd gear was too close to second gear. 5500 rpm in
> 4th
> is scary through the chicane.
> The Friday car display went very well and the Concours cars also
> got to be viewed again. It was great for everyone. Most were already
> packed and ready to leave so got to enjoy the show, music and food
> in a
> laid back manner.
> We took two days to make the long one way trip back home. We were
> almost home when we decided to make one last stop. As we pulled into
> the restaurant, the tire on the small trailer went flat. This was
> another unexpected blessing; by not having it happen on the
> interstate.
> Congratulations to Bob, Linda, and the whole crew, for a great
> convention.
>
>
>
> Warren
>
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