<VV> '69 A/C Install

Fri Jul 16 10:36:53 EDT 2010

                                                                        B"H

A couple of other points:  

1.  The instructions tell you to cut 3 of the stock wires running to the heater 
control panel, and splice in the wires from the evaporator unit.  However, those 
wires are very short and rather than hack them, I put quick-connect male and 
female terminals on the evaporator wires.  The female terminals plug into 
the connectors on the switch itself, and the male tabs go into the 
multi-plug leading to the harness.  This also preserves the stock wiring.

2.  There are two foam seals that go at the upper and lower ends of the 
condenser.  These are supposed to be "self-adhesive," but they're not.  You need 
to install the condenser, then push these foam seals in place.  They are not 
long enough to cover the entire length of the condenser, you need to add a 
couple of pieces on your own.  I used a bit of Permatex to hold the seals in 
place.

I'd strongly recommend the installation of either a head temp, or oil temp 
gauge, since the A/C will add heat to the engine and you'll want to monitor 
this, especially on a long trip.  Clark's also sells a condenser fan kit that 
may also be a big help in increasing efficiency (air flow) of the system, but I 
haven't looked into this yet.

Next, it will be a trip to a tint shop to get the windows tinted, and and 
upgrade to the high-output alternator next week, G-d willing.

Regards to all, have a great weekend...Bill Hershkowitz  69 Monza Coupe 110 PG

----- Original Message ----
From: BBRT <chsadek at comcast.net>
To: Bill H. <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 10:10:53 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> '69 A/C Install

Right thing to do. What I would have done.

C
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill H." <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>
To: "BBRT" <chsadek at comcast.net>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> '69 A/C Install

B"H

I did provide feedback to Clark's via their website. As a whole, they are an
excellent vendor and I intended my response to be "positive criticisms" not a
bashing of their business...Bill

----- Original Message ----
From: BBRT <chsadek at comcast.net>
To: Bill H. <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:52:44 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> '69 A/C Install

You know, having supplied items to Clark's and have dealt witht Cal and Mark, I
am absolutely sure they would appreciate substantive feedback for improving
their products and directions. Perhaps they could task the supplier with a
better set of instructions.

Chuck S
Vair Fab Associates
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill H." <gojoe283 at yahoo.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:11 PM
Subject: <VV> '69 A/C Install

B"H

There are a lot of vague "instructions" in Clark's installation manual. A lot
of the procedures, I had to figure out on my own. For example, the compressor
mounting bracket section is totally unrelated to what you need to do to install
that part, and the illustration is for some other bracket which looks like
nothing in the kit.

Among other things:

1. The parts in the kit are identified by "C" designations. The instructions
should include these numbers, since bags of hardware are located in various
boxes in the kit (there were 6 boxes in mine).
2. Photographs are of poor quality. With today's printing and digital
technology, there's no excuse. Check out the install manuals for ClassicAutoAir
kits, they are in full color and clear.
3. THe "snap switch" that is supposed to switch between the A/C evaporator and
the factory heater was wired totally wrong. I rewired that circuit with a
console-mounted toggle switch, which gives much more flexibility.
4. There are no detailed instructions on how to fit the "o" ring seals at the
hose connections. I figured it out, but a clear photograph and instructions
would have been helpful. This is a critical operation and all hose connections
must be properly sealed.
5. Vent outlet templates should be included for in-dash kit.
6. No auto parts stores (near me at least) stock an R134a charging refrigerant
hose long enough to reach outside the car so you can charge the system with the
engine lid closed. That should be noted, and offered at least as an option,
since front-engined cars don't need it. You really need TWO hoses, one for the
oil (you won't use a whole can) and another for the refrigerant!
7. The instructions say you can install the accessory A/C pulley on the
harmonic balancer without lowering the engine, but TRY to fit a torque wrench in
that space (even a 3/8" drive!). I ended up lowering the engine unit to get a
good fit.
8. Pictures of the various screws, nuts and bolts would be helpful.
Supposedly, anyone with a "basic mechanical ability" can install this system
from scratch. How am I supposed to know what a Number X screw is, without doing
research on said hardware? A picture would make installation that much easier.
9. The compressor belt won't even fit onto the pulleys when first installed.
You have to position the compressor at its "loosest" position along the
adjustment slot, position the bracket on the engine, attach the screws but keep
them loose. Then you tilt the whole compressor assembly toward the
pulley, slowly put the belt on, then tighten the bracket onto the engine. Once
there's a load on the compressor (at charging time), the belt stretches a bit
(and sqeaks loudly). From that point, you tighten the compressor along its
mounting to get the belt nice and tight and you're in business.
10. For the in-dash kit, there is not enough plastic hose to duct all three
vents properly. WHy should I have to use duct tape and cardboard cans to make
extensions so I can connect all the vents?
11. The instructions for attaching the 90 degree oil filter adapter could be
clearer. I ended up splashing oil all over the garage when I tried my best to
install the thing.
12. You really need an idle speed solenoid for A/C. Clark's says it's not
available, but I'm sure they can find a way to adapt an existing unit. Setting
the idle speed faster on PG cars drives you nuts when you're not using the A/C.

Other than that though, I am quite satisfied with the performance of the
system. The blower is VERY powerful and the air is nice and cold. I haven't
driven the car more than the 5 miles to work and back, but it's definitely an
improvement.

Bill Hershkowitz 69 Monza Coupe 110 PG

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