<VV> For Sale Clarks Early floor kit
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Sun Jul 11 21:59:45 EDT 2010
Where are you located? I have a 1960 Monza that needs front left and
right floor pans.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Marshalltown (Bob Dunahugh)
2. Re: generator (J R Read_HML)
3. LM PG Cable (Vairtec Corporation)
4. Re: Clark's A/C Instruction booklet (John O'Shea)
5. Re: generator (Sethracer at aol.com)
6. For Sale Clarks Early floor kit (Mike Moyer)
7. Re: 1965 Monza 4-door on eBay - Coupe not Wrong
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8. Subaru driving (levair at aol.com)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:34:50 -0500
From: Bob Dunahugh <yenko108 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: <VV> Marshalltown
To: Warren LeVeque <levair at aol.com>, Virtaul Vairs
<virtualvairs at corvair.org>, <fastvair at yahoogroups.com>, Mike McGowan
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Note from Linda
My typing error from score sheets. Mark Aksamit... #! 108.39 #2
97.510 #3 106.224
Also Rocco Egzio 4th run 88.566 Ted Cunneen 4th run 85.859 5 key was
sticking...thought I caught them on but on triple checking found these 2 yet
and Andy Kinzelman oops I had dropped your z.
Hope you guys had a good time.
> To: levair at aol.com; Virtualvairs at corvair.org; fastvair at yahoogroups.com;
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> Subject: Re: Marshalltown
> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:11:45 -0400
> From: levair at aol.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: levair at aol.com
> To: Virtualvairs at corvair.org; fastvair at yahoogroups.com;
> Yenko108 at hotmail.com; McVair at sbcblobal.net
> Sent: Sat, Jul 10, 2010 12:25 pm
> Subject: Marshalltown
>
> Due to the underwhelming response to corrections to the resultsl these
> are the final ones.
> I kown for instance that Mark Aksamit and Travis Bolton did not turn 4
> identical times.
> Entrants were invited at the track to conme up and correct their info
> also. so be it. Marshalltown 2010
> Results
> Michael LeVeque 75.678 ERR 75.339 CC Anderson IN
> David Clemmens 77.509 77.63 76.668 75.367 CC Roanoke VA
> Warren LeVeque 77.536 76.133 76.668 75.529 SC2 Anderson IN
> Richard Loving 96.276 80.541 78.916 78.881 CC Kankake IL
> Tim Mahler 81.976 80.635 87.147 80.858 CC Springfield IL
>
> Tracy LeVeque 82.871 81.617 82.231 81.718 CCL Anderson, IN
> Jim Dallas 84.19 85.37 84.113 84.011 SM3 Benton, KS
>
> Seth Emerson 85.928 85.413 84.399 84.771 IS5 San Jose CA
> Ted Cunneen 86.93 86.079 86.296 88.9 IS5 Lombard IL
> Roger Ringelstetter 97.569 87.303 87.689 86.411 IS3
>
> John Gray 89.433 87.486 87.569 86.829 IS5 Oshawa, Ont.
> Robert Dunahugh 90.382 87.242 87.233 87.979 IS5 Cedar Rapids, IA
> Ben Ringelstetter 89.377 87.953 89.144 88.886 IS3
> Rocco Egzio 88.771 88.962 88.595 88.66 IS3
> Chuck Armer toomuch 91.19 89.464 89.27 IS5 Chamblee, GA
> Mark Aksamit 91.979 90.498 90.069 89.293 IS3
> Travis Bolton 91.979 90.498 90.069 89.293 IS3 Liberty, MO
> Scott Trunkhill 94.771 92.469 89.397 89.89 IS5 Augusta, SC
> Steve Ridderman 90.645 90.732 90.347 90.806 CC Gobles, MI
> Andy Kinelman 94.196 91.386 91.798 92.161 IS3 Racine WI
> Warren Knaub 95.909 91.734 93.501 92.406 SM1 Cross Plains, WI
> Ryan Counterman 103.512 100.86 CC Cedar Springs, MI
> Chip Ostrand 105.844 101.317 SS4
> Kenosha, WI
> Scott Allison 101.356 101.919
> Grain Valley, MO
> Mark Whitman 107.455
> Clark Hartzel Worker
> IS5 Fraser, MI
> Ed Cunneen
> CC
> Terry Kalp
> Valley Center, KS
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:21:57 -0500
From: "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> generator
To: "Richard/Gail Spiess" <spiessdg at yahoo.com>,
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A used generator should be pretty easy to find, or rebuild yours. I
suppose
shipping would be a consideration if ordering from a vendor (they are not
light), so proximity - East coast VS West coast - could affect final cost.
Later, JR
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From: "Richard/Gail Spiess" <spiessdg at yahoo.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:26 PM
Subject: <VV> generator
Please do not try to open any attachment to this e-mail unless there is a
specific message in the body of the email and the email has a subject line
that makes sense. We've gotten a virus and cannot fix it yet. Thanks for
your patience. - Dick and Gail Spiess
The generator on my 64 Spyder gave up the ghost yesterday. Is Clarks the
best place to go and should I be looking for someone to Chrome the
replacement?
Dick
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 13:44:10 -0400
From: Vairtec Corporation <Vairtec at optonline.net>
Subject: <VV> LM PG Cable
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Okay, gang, I am about to help a fellow club member install a new
(from Clark's) Powerglide cable in his LM coupe. The car is stock in
every regard so there are no unusual things to be considered.
What helpful hints and tricks have you discovered through the years?
What hazards, pitfalls, and easy-to-make mistakes await us?
--Bob Marlow
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:38:29 -0700
From: "John O'Shea" <jco99 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> Clark's A/C Instruction booklet
To: "Virtual Vairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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I installed a 66 factory system in my 65. I used the Clark's repro of the
GM manual and the Clark's templates. Can't verify if 69 models have all
the
dimples in the body, but the 65 and 66 models come from the factory with
locating dimples for add-on factory A/C systems.
Examine the area just below your windshield wiper motor. If 69s have
them,
you should find dimples for two of the evaporator bolts and the cutout for
the liquid line to the evaporator. To the right of the passenger
windshield
squirter there should be dimples to locate the factory fresh air cutout.
The blower housing requires one big cutout, not two.
I believe there was also a dimple to locate the large hole on the
passenger
side just below the rear seat cushion where the evaporator suction line
goes
from inside the car to underneath. I also mounted a modern parallel flow
condenser in the trunk with a large fan in the bottom of the trunk.
If you are installing a factory system and you intend to use R-134A
refrigerant, you may want to convert all the connections to modern O-ring
fittings.
All modern cars for quite few years have used O-ring connections. R-134A
really doesn't like Corvair style hose barbs and hose clamps.
Those that have installed a factory A/C chime in here.
A Corvair without A/C in a Las Vegas summer is a Corvair from Hell!
Jack - Vegas Vairs
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From: <Taruffi57 at aol.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> Clark's A/C Instruction booklet
> Massive Confusion.
>
> After a read-through and looking at the templates I was sent by Clark's,
I
> find these points confusing: AND, several of their pics are so black
and
> poor that you can't see detail.
> (a) Pg. 19 of booklet: Reference to drilling of a hole at "A". There
> is
> no "A" in the pic but it may be in a black/dark area which would be from
> Clark's poor copying of this booklet.
> (b) Pg. 19 of booklet. Hole "C" - which appears to be hose hole for
> line
> from Dryer to Evaporator, is shown right where I think the Blower Assy.
> has to sit. This has to be wrong.
> (c) I can find no reference to exactly where you position the Blower
> template to cut the large hole - or is it 2 holes(?) to mount the Blower
> Assy.
> (d) there is not one pic of the blower holes - cut, nor any pic of the
> blower mounted in position in this instructional booklet. In short, I
> know
> where it goes, but I'm not going to cut until I know EXACTLY where to
> cut.
> (e) no mention of moving the Windshield Washer Bracket/Tank Assy. nor
> where to re-mount it.
> (f) 1 or 2 of the Templates have 2 Templates overlayed each other on
the
> same sheet of paper - with instructions to cut them out. Not only is
> there
> NO wording on those Templates to say WHAT they are for, but it is not
> clear exactly where to cut to separate them.
>
> I am doing a trunk-mount Condenser new A/C installation on my '69 Coupe.
> All of the above makes me wonder what confusion I will run into when I
> get
> into mounting the Evaporator and the Engine area parts.
>
> While I certainly appreciate the vast effort someone put into creating
> this
> manual, there are also other small points of confusion for the
first-time
> installer where it appears that the manual writer assumed that we would
> already know details. I think I'm better than average at figuring out
a
> lot
> of things - mechanical, but it seems to me that when you write a manual
> such
> as this, you have to assume that the reader may be a 1st-time,
> cold-turkey
> installer who needs everything written out in clear step-by-step
sequence.
>
> I'll be calling Clark's on Monday morning.
>
> Joe Dunlap
> Florida
> 2 Corvairs
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:46:35 EDT
From: Sethracer at aol.com
Subject: Re: <VV> generator
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In a message dated 7/11/2010 10:24:22 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
hmlinc at sbcglobal.net writes:
A used generator should be pretty easy to find, or rebuild yours. I
suppose
shipping would be a consideration if ordering from a vendor (they are not
light), so proximity - East coast VS West coast - could affect final cost.
Later, JR
If you find a shop that offers you the option of an in-stock rebuilt unit
or to rebuild yours, Make sure that the unit they supply you is identical
in
every respect - Or have them rebuild yours, if yours is an original. I
would choose to have them rebuild the original!
Seth Emerson
C's the Day! - Corvair, Camaro, Corvette
San Jose, CA
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:28:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Moyer <vairvert67 at yahoo.com>
Subject: <VV> For Sale Clarks Early floor kit
To: virtual vairs <virtualvairs at corvair.org>, corvanatics
<corvanatics at corvair.org>
Message-ID: <683913.85559.qm at web36108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Purchased 1964 parts car and it came with
Clarks Part number C10404: STEEL FLOOR KIT-60-64 CARS with
rubber
plugs
Part Number C3760R: 9 x RUBBER PLUG-FLOOR & TRUNK-60-64**ALSO**
Part Number C8407: 1 x 60-64 FT LEFT STEEL FLOOR PANEL--22 GA
Part Number C8408: 1 x 60-64 FT RIGHT STEEL FLOOR PANEL-22 GA
Part Number C8947: 1 x 60-64 REAR LEFT FLOOR PANEL-22 GA
Part Number C8948: 1 x 60-64 REAR RIGHT FLOOR PANEL-22 GA Clarks list for
344.10
also have a
Clarks front valance C1500 List$ 97.00
Clarks rear lower panel C1530X List $197
Entertaining reasonable offers
850-261-1709
Mike Moyer
CorvanAntics Editor
1963 Corvair 95 84hp Powerglide 24K miles
1965 Greenbrier 110hp 4 Spd
1965 Monza Convertible 140hp 4spd 3:55 Posi AM/FM
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:35:45 +0000
From: "airvair at earthlink.net" <airvair at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 Monza 4-door on eBay - Coupe not Wrong
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>,<tommy5styx at npgcable.com>
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True, styling is mostly subjective. To each his own.
The point I've been trying to get across to everyone is that the
conventional wisdom thet "everyone wants ONLY 2doors" is wrong. Just because a car
is a 4door doesn't mean it should be used up, worn out, parted out,and
thrown away. I fear that too many good 4doors are thusly lost because of that
wrong-headed assumption.
I've been keeping a 4door registry and am thinking of starting a 4door SIG
(wagons welcome) in CORSA just for that purpose. Hopefully that will help
preserve some truely underappreciated and beautiful cars.
-Mark
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Date: Sun, Jul 11, 10:05 AM -0500
Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 Monza 4-door on eBay - Coupe not Wrong
I guess that is the good thing about styling, it is completely subjective.
IMO, the late model coupe is a beautiful design, with no need to wonder
if it is rear engined or not, with styling that spawned the '66 Chevelle
(best year IMO) and the Camaro. The 4dr Hardtop is probably the most
attractive 4dr car ever, but it is still a 4dr, and the styling for the coupe
wouldn't work on it any better than the styling from the 4dr working on the
coupe As much as I admire John Fitch, I have always seen the "vent top" roof
addition as the perfect Pep Boys accessory to ruin an already beautiful,
NARROW C-pillar. Take a look at a '62 Chevy bubbletop, not that the Impala
roofline isn't also beautiful, but if I had to choose one or the
other.....color me bubbly.
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I couldn't agree more. What I was refering to when I said they failed is
the fact that the roofline, while pleasant enough, doesn't resemble their
objective look (the full-size fastback). It needs a broader "C" pillar in
order to do that, which is why the ventop looks so good on it. John Fitch knew
what he was doing, and he is a man of style.
-Mark
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:20:17 -0400
From: levair at aol.com
Subject: <VV> Subaru driving
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I had a great experience today guest driving a 400 HP AWD Subaru WRX
which was very well prepared. This car is often FTD at our events.
Many thanks to Chuck Mcmillion for the chance and the preparation.
We had five runs at Grissom AFB near Kokomo IN. Grissom is very grippy
concrete and the courses are quite fast and flowing.
Where these 4 wheel drive cars really excel is on the less grippy
surfaces, so the concrete was sort of an uphill test.
Due to having 3 drivers and two class, I had to run in SM instead of
SMS. That put me in the same class as my son's street driven YS 045
Stinger.
My SMS class had to run in the FIRST heat and the other 2 drivers
in the 2nd heat, so I had to learn nearly every thing on my own by
trying and failing. I had never even sat in one of these cars before
and had never raced a car with power steering and power brakes: much
less AWD.
I had tons of well meant advice, but my head was swimming.
I went 2 seconds faster on my 2nd run buy not thinking so much.
By trying very hard , but relaxing and letting the car come to
me I was able to finish in the same 48 sec bracket as the no 2 driver
but not in the same bracket as Chuck's low 47s and high 46s.
I surprisingly, was able to get the car to rotate some in the
sweepers; then I got way too brave on my last run and rotated it 360
degrees.
In the next heat I got to ride with Chuck and learn how to
correctly drive the car: too little too late of course.
. An interesting thing that I did learn, that Front drivers and FWD
drivers obviously already knew , was the acceleration inward toward the
apex with increased power application. Acceleration in the direction
that the wheels were turned.
Chuck tried 2nd gear in the fast sweeper that I been using 3rd gear
in. The extra power drew the car inward toward the shorter/closer line.
Rear wheel drive cars push outward with the same power application
unless using power on, tail out oversteer (if there is room to do so).
.The favorite line of the AWD cars seems to be hard braking to get
pointed in and then huge power application.
There is a lot of cammaradie in this class of cars and they are very
popular.A great asset is that the car also be used for very many other
activities. Lets' see, what else can I use my modified car for????
I was pleased and satisfied with my performance and thrilled to get
the chance to participate in this form of racing.
Hmmm,, amy more loaner cars out there? I've been loaning mine a lot
lately.
Warren
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