<VV> 1965 Monza 4-door on eBay

[Charles Lee]

Hmmm... What do you mean "that effort failed in that objective" ? You (and 
the professional designers) don't think it's a good design ?

Good point that (I think) you are making, is that the 4-door de-emphasizes 
the long tail that the coupe exhibits, which I think is also "cured" in the 
convertible.

Unfortunately, the style of that period was the short tail and long nose of 
front-engine cars especially of the "pony car" genre.

All Corvairs do a nice job of matching style and rear-engine design into a 
beautiful car.

The most significant factor is that the Corvair was not a sports car or a 
luxury model, yet was among, if not THE nicest looking car of the period, 
notwithstanding being the "cheapest" American ECONOMY made car.

I think "understated" defines the Corvair quite nicely...

Early and late models are completely \different species, as GM intended, it 
seems, and both beautiful in their own right !

In my opinion, of course.
Charlie

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According to Dave Newell, the GM designers all considered the LM Corvair 
4door to be their best work, better than the 2door (with which they were 
trying to mimic the full-size fastback design). Considering that that effort 
(IMHO) failed in that objective, I have to side with the professional 
designers.

I've always said that there is no wrong angle on a LM Corvair 4door. You can 
walk all the way around it and not see a bad angle. OTOH the coupe suffers 
in the 3/4 angle, with the rounded roof, rounded backlite, rounded body 
lines, and what appears to be a short hood and long decklid (something even 
C&D complained about) all conspiring to make it look "slightly pregnant" and 
not its best angle. The best thing you can do for the poor thing is add a 
Fitch Ventop.

That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

-Mark

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------Original Message------
From: Charles Lee <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
To: "J R Read_HML" 
<hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>,<virtualvairs at corvair.org>,"Charles Lee" 
<Chaz at ProperProper.com>
Date: Sat, Jul 10, 10:58 AM -0700
Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 Monza 4-door on eBay

The LM was deemed the "Most Beautiful Car" (in 1967 ?) for good reason ...

- that is a sweet looking design (never mind that it was also "America's
Cheapest Hardtop" !)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 Monza 4-door on eBay


> Looks like JUST the car for Dawn Brandes.
>
> What do you say, Guy?
>
> Later, JR
>
>
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> From: "Charles Lee" <Chaz at ProperProper.com>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> 1965 Monza 4-door on eBay
>
>
>> Here's a 1965 Monza 110 4-door hardtop in Apple Valley, CA (Victorville),
>> that may be worth a look :
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290452641371
>>
>> It has really good floors and trunk, doors all swing nicely, and it looks
>> good.
>>
>> Repainted from original (Crocus ?) yellow, with some reapirs on R/R
>> quarter
>> panel.
>>
>> Engine missing sheet metal around engine, but runs well (needs battery),
>> with small oil drip onto right side exhaust.
>>
>> I really want a 4-speed 4-door, but almost bought it anyway.
>>
>> Charlie
>>
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