<VV> Oh say can you see, was: Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs

[Charles Lee]

I'm not even sure what a PT Cruiser convertible is supposed to be ?
Isn't the base car a retro delivery truck (like Chevy's retro 53 truck) ?

Now, the Corvair of any year looks fantastic as a convertible, but a 
Greenbriar convertible ?
OK, I do believe that anything looks better as a convertible...

I digress but has anyone made a Greenbriar convertible ?

Charlie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <aeroned at aol.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Oh say can you see, was: Modern Corvair vs. mundane FWDs


> The reason NO car is a hardtop today is the roll over regulations imposed
> on the car industry by the US government. The convertibles have roll bars,
> some  unobtrusive and others not so much. Have you seen a PT Cruiser 
> 'vert?
>
> Ned
>
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2010 12:29:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> airvair at earthlink.net writes:
>
> I wonder  if they would do a "retro" Corvair the same way they did the new
> "retro"  Camaro. It's got a great modern "retro" revision of the '69 
> Camaro,
> but  it's a sedan. The original was a hardtop. Fact is, that is my 
> biggest
> complaint about it, the Challenger, and even the Mustang. They're  ALL
> sedans, not hardtops. The LM Corvairs were beautiful as hardtops, and  to
> make them into sedans would ruin them.
>
> What's worse is  illustrated by the quarter windows in the Camaro. Just 
> look
> at how much of  the glass is blacked out, and what's behind all that 
> black.
> On the inside  you have a humoungous plastic trim panel that no doubt 
> hides
> a lot of  steel. My question is why? Especially since per square inch, 
> glass
> is  heavier than steel, so you'd think that the weight-savers would be
> going
> ballistic over putting glass over steel and hiding it with black  paint on
> the glass and a trim panel on the inside.
>
> The result is  that the outward vision is horrible. From the driver's 
> seat,
> the right  quarter window looks like a postage stamp, while you can't even
> see out the  left quarter window. The blind spots are the size of semi
> trucks. I am  imagining a lot of new Camaros are going to end up with rear
> end damage  from people backing into things.
>
> That's the one thing the Corvair was  always praised for, its outward 
> view.
> Especially the LM 2door hardtop had  great visibility. No "B" pillar, and
> thin "C" pillars. If a Corvair were  done today, would it suffer the same
> fate as the Camaro? Would you end up  with a 2door sedan with horrible
> rearward  vision?
>
> -Mark
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Charles  Lee <Chaz at ProperProPer.com>
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Modern  Corvair vs. mundane FWDs
>>
>> The Corvair was beautiful then and  still is, and a new "retro" version
> would
>> be unique because it  would NOT have the antiquated FE/RWD package.
>>
>> A "retro"  Corvair would be beautiful in its own right, not just because
> it
>>  looks like the car you had in high school.
>>
>> I get annoyed at  people who like the 60s Ford Falcons and put them in
> the
>> same  category as the Corvair, simply because they're "old" !
>>
>> The  Corvair is a "classic" for so many more reasons than other cars of
> that
>> era !
>>
>> OK, I'm finished (for now)
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From:  <scottygrover at aol.com>
>> To:  <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 8:13  AM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Modern Corvair vs. mundane  FWDs
>>
>>
>> > He was possibly thinking of the Chrysler  Airflow (also DeSoto) which
> is,
>> > to
>> > my mind, one  of the ugliest cars around.  I don't think the Volkswagen
> had
>>  > come over at that time.
>> > But the Tatra---the inspiration for  the VW, and better styled as well
> as
>> > being aerodynamic--now  that's beautiful, if rather strange-looking, 
>> > and
> so
>> > is   the '53 Studebaker coupe, which is still in demand for cars 
>> > trying
> for
>> > Bonneville records. Corvairs are, in their way,  aerodynamic--it's just
>> > that
>> > the  prow wants to  ride higher when it should be digging in for more
> air
>> >  flow
>> > OVER  the car (like old-time battleships with the ram  on the prow.)
>> >
>> > Scotty
>> >
>>  >
>> > In a message dated 1/19/2010 6:51:31 A.M. Pacific Standard  Time,
>> > airvair at earthlink.net writes:
>> >
>> > And  as  far as modern cars being mundane, like Gordon Buehrig  (the
> stylist
>> > of
>> > the  coffin-nose Cord) said  about it, "aerodynamics makes for lousy
>> > styling."
>>  >
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