<VV> Campfire

Thu Jan 7 19:24:52 EST 2010

Is this still the forum to talk about Corvairs ?

Daniel Monasterio

> From: ricebugg at mtco.com
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:51:09 -0600
> Subject: <VV> Campfire
> 
> Hank (aka: FMOLG): Let's see if I get this right. You have bailed out of
> CORSA, say you have no dog in the fight, but you continue to tell those of
> us, CORSA members, how the organization we belong to should work. Since you
> are not a dues paying member, you have no right to tell the rest of us what
> you would do if you were a dues paying member. Discussing what CORSA should
> do is solely the prerogative of dues paying members. It is like illegal
> and/or non-citizen type people in this country telling us what we should do.
> If you want a voice, fulfill the requirements of membership/citizenship.
> 
> You have no right to ask or demand any BoD member to explain anything on VV.
> In the first place, VV is not meant to be a place where CORSA leadership
> makes announcements to a group which may have as many or more non-CORSA
> members than members. Folks like you. VV was never meant to be a forum for
> CORSA discussions. It has kinda turned into that, to our shame. Guilty as
> charged, but only in response to the miss-information and/or miss-direction
> of others.
> 
> Second, the official publication of CORSA is the Communique. The web sight
> is not.
> 
> President Tim cannot fire any BoD member. But since, according to you, Jack
> did not fulfill his responsibility to maintain his CORSA membership he
> automatically cannot be a BoD member. By definition. CORSA membership is a
> requirement to be on the BoD. No membership, no position on the BoD. If
> true, the only thing President Tim did was enforce the By-laws. Which he
> should do. It is not like it is hard to know when your membership expires.
> It is on the Communique mailing label each month. Cannot speak for others,
> but I have always received my renewal notice well in advance of my
> membership expiration date. If what you say is true, Jack is without
> excuse. As a Marine, you should understand failure, and consequences
> thereof, for not following the requirements of the office.
> 
> There are no backdoor decisions being made about BoD membership. When a
> director resigns from the BoD, their replacement is appointed by either the
> President, Executive Committee or the entire BoD, per the CORSA By-laws. I
> don't know which is the case. But the process has been in place and has
> worked successfully for many, many years. The BoD member who resigned, for
> whatever the reason, is at least the 4th to do so since about 1990. I, for
> one, prefer BoD members resign if the foibles of life overtakes them, rather
> than them just filling a line in the organization chart. My hat is off to
> those who have done the honorable thing in such circumstance. I respect
> them immensely.
> 
> You, on the other hand....
> 
> As for you getting cussed out, that is a hoot! I've been cussed out off
> line by you one time to many. As have others. As the chief purveyor of
> vulgar, obscene and profane e-mails, you are a filthy corrupt pot calling
> others dirty. Give us a break. Go away. Craw back into whatever swamp you
> normally reside in. If you cannot control your vocabulary adequately to
> respond here, don't bother. You will be deleted without remorse.
> 
> No longer Historically Yours,
> James Rice
> CORSA member since mid-70's
> Former Chairman of the Competition Committee
> Member of original CPF Advisorary Committee
> CORSA/CPF BoD member and CPF Liaison 1999-01
> Occasional contributor to the Communique
> PCG member
> 
> 
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:58:04 -0500
> From: <kaczmarek at charter.net>
> Subject: <VV> Interesting talk round the Campfire
> 
> Surprising what you can hear. Yesterday I heard round the campfire that
> Allen Bristow took Scott Morehead's place on the Board.
> 
> I've known Allen over 20 years, beginning when I joined Tidewater CC. Past
> Chapter Pres., Past Director, Past CORSA President, and I know him to be a
> fair, reasonable and honest person.
> 
> I'm not a big By-Law reader, so I guess if this is true, there's no election
> required to fill the seat of a resigning director for the remainder of the
> term. No matter to me, as I am no longer a member of CORSA.
> 
> Allen will be an asset, and he's not an advocate of the "Free Ride" for
> CORSA chapter members to refuse to pay dues to CORSA.
> 
> Even more interesting, I was told last night that Director Jack Pinard was
> "Fired" by CORSA President Mahler because his dues were 2 days late getting
> to M&P.
> 
> I've no idea if either was true, but as a non-member I've got no dog in the
> fight, and at the minimum you would think the BoD would announce on the
> website and on V V that we had a new director appointed and one apparently
> sacked. From the Board, not even the chirp of a cricket.
> 
> If I was a dues paying member, I'd think our BoD was copying our Congress.
> Back door decisions, tossing directors under the bus, directors quitting,
> directors being fired,
> 
> I sure would like some director to get their ass on here and tell me what I
> was told was a pack of lies, and offer some proof. But I'm sure not hopeful
> that it will happen. Instead I'll probably get cussed out and told what a
> bastard I am.
> 
> Let's see
> 
> HANK
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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