<VV> Spyder/Corsa turbo -- fast & furious

[jvhroberts at aol.com]

 One of the things that came from the bailout for GM and Chrysler was a HUGE concession from the UAW. Now, labor costs to the companies is only about $4-5 /hour more than non union car plants here. 

So, I do expect a renaissance for Detroit. The Volt is pricey, but so is the first version of any new breakthrough technology. I also expect the costs to come way down as volume production of the critical components, like batteries, cranks up. I like the idea of an electric car with an onboard genset. It represents the first time a modern car can be substantially powered by something other than petroleum. 

 

John Roberts
 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rodney Spooner <rodneyspooner at corvairgarage.com>
To: 'Jim Houston' <jhouston001 at cfl.rr.com>; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Sent: Sun, Dec 26, 2010 3:33 pm
Subject: Re: <VV> Spyder/Corsa turbo -- fast & furious


Can you say "Yugo?" ""Hundai?" "Kia?" America can make a cheap car but not

an inexpensive one so long as the labor costs are at least $30-$40 PER HOUR

(PLUS BENEFITS) more than foreign(?) competitors building here in America.



But $40,000 for a Prius? $40,000 MSRP for the Chevy Volt? I can buy a

Corvair and truck load of fuel for that much without the mortgage payments

thank you very much...



I'm thinking I could even make an Electrovair III for less. But then my

electric bill would go up...



Rodney





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[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Jim Houston

Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:27 AM

To: virtualvairs at corvair.org

Subject: Re: <VV> Spyder/Corsa turbo -- fast & furious



One of the reasons for high costs are taxes...  if Congress would enact 

the Fair Tax, everything in the country would be cheaper!!



Jim Houston



On 12/26/2010 2:01 AM, Tony Underwood wrote:

> At 01:59 PM 12/25/2010, Harry Yarnell wrote:

>> Yea, blue collar Baltimore..

>> Just seemed that way back in the 50's-60's...

>> Seems loans today are more 5-7 year.

>> GM is offering three year loans (GMAC) at 0%

>

>

> This was something I brought up earlier...

>

>

> WTF is a car doing costing so much money you need to finance it for

> SIX YEARS?   New cars still cost too much today, considerably more

> than they used to cost.    And NO I don't mean dollars, I mean as

> percentages of income.   What's more, the cost is NOT justified by

> those extras that cars today seem to offer as standard (meaning you

> pay for them whether you want them or not).

>

>

> This is one of the reasons I prefer to drive older vehicles.   I'm

> not interested in providing any more of MY income to any car

> manufacturer for a car that I don't actually honestly like.   And,

> frankly I don't really like much of what I see available today.

>

>

>

> tony..

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