<VV> CONCERN OVER 2011 CORSA CONVENTION DATES

Tue Aug 31 03:05:22 EDT 2010

Side note: I can't participate in VCCA with my Factory Stock Restored (and
award winning) blue convertible. Reason: VCCA does not allow non-stock
tires, period. Well, technically, they do allow them, but it's a massive
deduction so it's the same as not allowing them. There are no original '66
7.00" x 13" bias-ply tires left that are in concours shape, to my knowledge,
and no one makes a repro of this size tire in bias ply. 6.5" x 13", yes, but
that is the wrong tire for '66-9 Corvairs.

Some friends and I have worked with Coker a couple of times to try to find a
mold to make some but it's not going particularly well.

I would really like to participate in VCCA but it's not gonna happen for me
anytime soon. Shame.

--Kent
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Subject: Re: <VV> CONCERN OVER 2011 CORSA CONVENTION DATES

This has got friendly wager written all over it!! My money is on Denver and
CORSA.

This might also be a record. The earliest complaint about a CORSA convention
date/location? I think the bigger challenge to the convention will be the
over all health of the economy. While many talking heads in government many
say the recovery in full swing, my personal experience say different. I'm
not looking for a discussion on the state of the economy.

Ned

In a message dated 8/29/2010 8:53:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
arlettecarl at hotmail.com writes:

Hi  everyone,

PROBLEMS - 2011 CORSA CONVENTION DATES

I  still believe that attendance numbers at the CORSA 2011 convention in
Denver  could well be down because of the major VCCA event being held in
Flint at the  same time.

Tim Mahler and Keith Keillor raise some quite valid  points to my above
observation, and I appreciate these views. Nevertheless I  firmly believe
that the 2011 CORSA Convention will have some quite  considerable
competition from VCCA event in FLINT which has already booked out  four
hotels.

Tim mahler comments:

1/ "It is  impossible to schedule ANY event without conflicting with
another."

Reply: 

Yes, but why complete directly with such a  major car event that has already
booked 4 hotels? How many hotels has the 2011  CORSA Convention in Denver
booked as of today?

2/ "There will  be MANY 100 anniversary events for the Chevrolet. This is
but one".
Reply:  

Certainly Chevrolets 100th birthday will be celebrated not just in the USA,
but all over the world during 2011, but I firmly believe that none of these
celebrations will come anywhere near the size of the VCCA event. I would be
surprised if GM are planning anything significant.

3/ "VCCA  is a FACTORY STOCK Chevrolet event. Bill Hubbell "Alice" is
eligible to be  shown. Few other CORSA Corvairs will be -- relegated to the
back lot. This  includes both of my well documented Fitch Sprints, both
altered from factory  thus prohibited to be shown. It's part of the core
essence of VCCA. Altered  vehicles are not scorned, but also not eligible
for any awards, reaffirmed  this year."

Reply:

So in Chevrolet's 100th year, the focus would  be on correct original cars
and for one year "after market" cars take a step  back. I don't see that is
or should be a big issue. 

4/ "I am a  member of VCCA, and have not even considered attending this
event vs CORSA's  event."

Reply:

Tim, perhaps then you are representative of those  who don't specifically
value the history behind the brand Chevrolet. Many  Corvette owners are like
this, and for various reason prefer to call their  vehicles 'Vettes' or
'Corvettes' rather than Chevrolet Corvettes which they  are. 

Maybe what you saying is the a major celebration of  Chevrolets 100th
birthday really needs little representation from Chevrolet  Corvairs. If you
are right then a few Corvairs if any will be in Flint because  they will all
be in Denver.

5/ "VCCA will do 1 or 2 tours, a  driving tour and a car show. CORSA will
have tech sessions, Rally,  economy-run, autocross, Concours and Car
display.

Reply:

Tim,  you are missing my point totally. This is NOT about who runs the best
convention. This is about Chevrolets 100th birthday and ensuring that both
conventions are well attended. Certainly those who just want performance
events, autocross etc and have no interest in Chevrolet history or its 100th
birthday will simply go to the regular CORSA event.

6/ "I  really enjoy all my CORSA friends, even those who disagree with  me".
Reply:

Tim, I would agree with the above statement totally, but  I also believe
that issue I am trying to get across is important. Maybe I will  be wrong
and maybe record numbers will attend the Denver event. However if I  am
right then the Denver event might be poorly attended.

Dave  Keillor comments:

"Then there is the issue of contracts signed  and commitments made by the
host club".
Reply:

Dave, you raise an  important point, particularly if attendance are are
down. This might make  meeting those commitments difficult.

So I still firmly believe  that:

Consideration should be given to changing the scheduled  dates for the 2011 
CORSA Convention in Denver CO.

Sunday July 17  thru to Saturday July 23, (FOUR HOTELS ARE FULLY BOOKED OUT 
NOW)

The  Vintage Chevrolet Car Club of America will be celebrating Chevrolets 
100th  birthday at Chevrolet's birth place in Flint, Michigan.

Monday July  18 thru to Friday July 22,

CORSA plans to run its annual convention at  the same time, in Denver 

Regards from  Australia

Carl L. Kelsen

1965 CHEVROLET Corvair Monza  convertible

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

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