<VV> Restoration - DIY is $atisfying (and a hello)

Mon Aug 9 22:17:16 EDT 2010

Scotty, take a look at "*Lower Cost Electronic Fuel injection and Corvairs*"
thread on the Corvair Center forum. There are 10 pages of information and
disussion on this subject. I started the thread and it has had almost 5800
hits and 188 discussions on the ins and outs of efi, who's done it and who
is doing it. There are several others on the forum on EFI as well.
http://corvaircenter.com/phorum/list.php?1,page=4

If you log in and find that thread, you can set up a notification for
whenever anyone adds a discussion.

My Carb Adapters are coming from Ray Sedman of American PI, for about $210 a
set of two. He is looking for others to get in on the production run, so if
you are interested, nows the time. My 145 C.U. 2.4L engine will get 4 18 lbs
per hour High pressure injectors on top of bored out carbs (remove the
venturi) which should give me 117 HP.

I have been aquiring parts and am about to start the first phase of the
conversion by adding the harmonic balancer, rear mount and mount plate off a
64, to my 62. First, the harmonic has to be drilled to trigger the VR sensor
like what is on the forum. Ted Brown developed the technique, it is also
used by Rad Sedman, but Ray has a different sensor setup to go with the
engine computer he sells, but he has done a variety of these.

When I actually begin, I will announce a new thread on the Corvair Forum
which will have detailed instructions and pictures on what I do. I've taken
EFI from a 90-92 Firebird/Camaro V-6 Stick car, which is a 1227730 ECM and
accompaning sensors.  If you have signed up, you will get a notification.

Scotty. Got Pics? What have you designed?

regards

Mark Durham

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:55 PM, <ScottyGrover at aol.com> wrote:

> Please keep us informed about the progress on this project--I have designed
>  an EFI unit that (in its' breadboarded state) did the job it was supposed
> to do;  now to modify "Angie Baby" (my LM coupe) without extensive downtime
> or expense  in order to set her up for EFI, as she's my only driver.
>
> Scotty from Hollyweird
>
>
> In a message dated 8/9/2010 11:24:21 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>  62vair at gmail.com writes:
>
> For me,  doing the DIY work is half the fun. Yes, I enjoy taking my 62
> coupe
> out for  drives, because its fun to drive and the car gets lots of
> attention.
> But I  am a tinkerer at heart and enjoy working on the car as well. My
> current  venture is upgrading to EFI and DIS. I have purchased most of the
> parts and  am starting with the DIS setup by adding a Harmonic balancer to
> this 62 102  HP coupe. This requires a change in rear engine mount to the
> 64
> style, and  replacement mount bracket, so while I'm doing engine mounts I
> also got the  two transmission mounts, also from 1962, so the engine will
> be
> sitting on  all new mounts. The Harmonic will be drilled to trigger a VR
> sensor for the  Distributorless ignition system prior to mounting to the
> car.
>
> I'm also  modifying two carbs to throttle bodies, which will hold two high
> pressure  fuel injectors per side.
>
> I like to sit in my easy chair in the evenings  and do the technical
> thought
> processes, check out wiring diagrams, and  order parts. This winter when I
> can no longer work outside, I will be  assembling wiring diagrams, etc.
>
> Karl, welcome to the  forum.
>
> Mark Durham
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:22 AM,  Karl Haakonsen <cityhawk at pobox.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've been  following this discussion with great interest and decided
> > to jump in  with my first post as a Virtual Vairs member.
> >
> > It's great to  see such a lively, active email list of Corvair
> > enthusiasts. As to the  subject in discussion, like most things, I see
> > both sides of the  argument.
> >
> > Many years ago, I lived on a farm and had a  fully-equipped shop with air
> > compressor, paint setup, all manner of  welders at my disposal. My last
> > refurbishment (I couldn't call it a  restoration) was a 1963 Chevy pickup
> > truck that I did a fair amount of  welding of sheet metal to repair
> > rusted body parts and built a 283  engine from parts complete with
> > Corvette high compression heads with  the finned valve covers to boot.
> > This was done in 1982 when I was  about 20 years old.
> >
> > I currently live in the city with a short  driveway (that has yet to be
> > paved, but I hope to do that this fall),  no garage or special equipment.
> > I have a baby at home and another on  the way, along with a full-time job
> > as a nurse whereby I work nights  and days in the same week to minimize
> > childcare costs (e.g. my time is  very limited).
> >
> > As such, there is a fair amount of work that  I've decided that I just
> > won't be able to do.
> >
> > I have  had the car (1966 Monza convertible, 110/PG) for 20 years and it
> > has  been sitting in the dirt driveway, all this time -- I buy Clark's
> > good  car covers every few years when the old ones got too ratty. I
> > bought  the car near the end of my first marriage, then the marriage
> > ended and  the car became less relevant in my life. 20 years later, I am
> >  remarried with the aforementioned child and pending child, more  settled
> > in my life and have decided to finally take the project on  while there
> > is still enough car left to restore.
> >
> > The  body is pretty rough, but I've seen worse. When I last checked, the
> >  basics were sound... most of the rust is from standing around rather
> >  than from road salt. The front and rear corners of the front fenders
> >  (especially the right one), the lower half of the left rear quarter
> >  panel (probably from the battery) which the previous owner patched  with
> > a Clark's fiberglass lower quarter panel, and some indeterminate  damage
> > to the right quarter panel since it has bondo on it. I did not  store the
> > engine properly when it last ran in 1993, so it is no-doubt  seized up by
> > now and needing overhaul.
> >
> > I intend to do  the engine work myself (though will send the parts out
> > for machining  since I do not have the tools for that). I plan to do the
> > gross body  work (cutting out and patching the rusted areas, sandblasting
> > paint  and rust off of the car.... probably do the POR 15 treatement of
> > the  undercarriage. But I plan to send the car someplace to do the finish
> >  body work and the paint job since I don't have the garage to do it in
>  (I
> > plan to put up one of those canopy-tent style temporary garages to  do
> > the work and will do the engine work in my  basement).
> >
> > I will get the satisfaction of doing a major part  of the work myself,
> > while saving the money from having all of it done  elsewhere... but I
> > lack the tools, the place and the time to do  everything myself.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Karl (in  Boston)
> >
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