In a message dated 8/9/2010 10:44:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Chaz at ProperProper.com writes: VV is the best value out there and I can vouch for that just in the last few weeks and many times before) !! Quite true! A great value. It is worth at least twice what it costs! Seth Emerson C's the Day! - Corvair, Camaro, Corvette San Jose, CA