"Dampeners"?!?!? Do they make it wet?!? If they are only there to absorb vibration (or damp it), then they are not dampeners but DAMPERS. Sorry, that's one of my pet peeve terminology issues. End of rant. Back to early/late discussions. Phil Raker '65 Corsa Cpe - 140/4 '63 Greenbrier - 110/4 .