Bob, Spoken like a true LUDDITE!!!<GGGGG> Regards, Frank "old but willing to try new stuff" Burkhard In a message dated 09/24/09 11:38:30 Eastern Daylight Time, Vairtec at optonline.net writes: For a couple of years now I have been telling people that my Corvair has an in-dash navigation system. There's a map in the glove compartment. --Bob