<VV> manditory membership

Mon Sep 7 21:50:32 EDT 2009

And you wonder why membership is dropping? DUH!!! I'm starting to  re think 
my membership because of all these childish name calling  
games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GROW UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
Ron Thompson
Corsa member but not for long

In a message dated 9/7/2009 8:45:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jacesana1 at cox.net writes:

Spineless. I guess that the founders of CORSA 40 years ago were  spineless
for NOT requiring the 100% membership. I guess that CORSA only  supports the
chapters? I think it is a two way street here. I can see your  points and it
may seem like an easy fix but I don't think it would work  they way you see
it. The chapters support CORSA with the exposure the  public gets to the
Corvair. The more members a chapter has (member of CORSA  or not) the more
the car is exposed. If more people get the "itch" then the  more Corvairs we
can get into the fold. Once someone purchases a Corvair  then they start to
ask questions and look up stuff online. If we continue  to bad mouth non
members then they in turn probably will probably not tell  anyone about
CORSA. In Bay State we have many non CORSA members. One of  them is even a
mechanic who continues to promote the Corvair. He has his  own reason for 
not
being in CORSA but he is certainly not someone who picks  for free info just
to sell a car. He is defiantly in the business of  keeping Corvairs running
for future generations. 
Also for the  "freeloader" clubs (and I guess I belong to one of them
according to some  of you) We have to pay the fee for not being 100%
compliant. Don't you  think that covers us for the non members? Remember we
don't have to mail  them a magazine every month or a membership card so the
only cost they give  CORSA is the insurance. 
If we "force" people to join there may even be  some current members that 
may
leave because a friend in the local chapter  is not and doesn't want to join
and that friend is ousted out of the  chapter. So the trend continues. I
don't think the 100 membership is going  to solve any financial problem 
CORSA
has. The best way for us to increase  membership is to be more open and
inviting to ALL Corvair owners. Also when  members SELL a car do they give a
local chapter and CORSA membership form  with the paperwork? If not perhaps
that is also a good way to promote both  parties. 
I know that you guys probably don't agree with me but it's just  another way
of looking at the picture. Trust me I don't expect anyone on  this side of
the fence to agree with me but I don't think that calling the  BOD spineless
is the way to vocalize your opinion. After all we are  volunteers and don't
need the negative comments about our commitment to  CORSA. If you don't like
the direction we are going then I expect your  names on the ballot next 
year.
Jason Cesana

-----Original  Message-----
From:  virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org]  On Behalf Of Bill Hubbell
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:58 PM
To:  'The Bristows'; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> manditory  membership

I have to agree with Allen.  I fail to see how CORSA  would be hurt by
requiring 100% membership from all Chartered  Chapters.  What is the 
downside
to CORSA if the folks who don't want  to pay CORSA dues decide to quit?  Is
CORSA afraid that current CORSA  members will quit CORSA if they are 
required
to be members of CORSA in  order to join a CORSA Chapter?  If that is the
case, let them  leave.

Here is what the real problem is, folks.  There are certain  CORSA Board
members who belong to local Chartered chapters that do not  require CORSA
membership.  One of these clubs is a very large  mid-western club that
several powerful CORSA members attend, and THEY don't  want to take a chance
on messing up their organization to support  CORSA.  This is more than just
spineless leadership, it is corrupt  leadership.

Bill Hubbell
President of Stock Corvair Group (a 100%  CORSA chapter) Member of Tidewater
Corvair Club (a 100% CORSA chapter)  Member of Air Vairs (a 100% CORSA
Chapter)

-----Original  Message-----
From:  virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org]  On Behalf Of The Bristows
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:43 PM
To:  virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: <VV> manditory membership

I  do not want to let this go silent.      Corsa supports local  chapters 
who
have events, shows, assist with technical advice and  meetings.  It also
supports a web site that any one can see the online  classifieds, other
various things and publishes a fine magazine.  We  now have a declining
membership so we raise dues instead of reducing cost  and requiring Chapters
to have 100% membership.  What amuses me is  that we have leadership that is
spineless in making it manditory for 100 %  membership in Corsa.  If current
club members that belong to a local  chapter and not Corsa can't figure out
the benifits of Corsa then they need  to sell their Corvair and move on or
find someone else to support their  cheap A....!   They usally milk members
for technical help and  parts then sell the car anyway.  Not a real
enthusiast in my  book.  Whats the loss? The problem reminds me of our
wonderful  Congress.  Lets give free social security and health care to all
the  illegal imigrants so we can supp  ort them with our tax dollars.  So  
our
treasury has a massive deficit.
Quick solution, just raise the taxes  on the productive folks in society.
After all we may offend them.  I  don't like my dues going up to support 
free
loaders.  This is the only  major national car club that is run like this.
What a joke! I think the BOD  needs to reconsider this before I reconsider
where I send my money.  A  very offended past Corsa Prez.  Former TCC Prez,
Corvair and Corsa  enthusiast.   Allen
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