<VV> Off List

Tue Sep 8 00:24:45 EDT 2009

Classic Hank....no wonder he didn't post that to the VV list.

Rather that running for the BoD so he might actually be able to do  
something or at least have a clue what goes on in the BoD actions, he's going to  
pack up his "toys" and go home. What a man, talk about spineless. Throwing in 
 the bit about donating $500 to CORSA for all the help he got getting the  
Ultra-Monza is so much fertilizer. Hank, I'm not buying it.

Ned

In a message dated 9/7/2009 11:10:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jacesana1 at cox.net writes:

Well  Hank if they were members then why is CORSA in such a mess if they 
have
all  the answers? The problems of CORSA did not happen overnight. It just  
so
happens that THIS board has been handed the reins of solving ALL  the
problems that have been left unchecked for years. Can't stand it when  past
BOD members call the current BOD spineless and indesicive when they  did not
change the perceived problems. I can understand Bill's decision to  resign 
as
is the reason I am on the bod as Dexter had to resign for family  reasons. 
As
for Allen, if things were so good then I would suggest that he  run again so
we may have the good times back. I do not think it was the  work of one
individual that CORSA was in a good state. It was the work of  ALL the
membership. I don't doubt ANY past members efforts I just can't  stand it
when past members of the Bod take shots at current members because  we don't
do things their way. There are better ways of doing things. Not  ALL of this
Bod has been involved for years and are "corrupt" as someone  mentioned.  As
for the what if's; if you don't be the devil's advocate  then you are only
seeing one side of the issue. No you can't GOVERN by that  but you can weigh
the pro's and con's by that. You have to because you  don't have a crystal
ball (or do you and can you tell me what the powerball  numbers will be this
week!) and you have to make the decision based on both  sides. Am I saying
that making membership not mandatory is the right  choice? No all I am 
saying
is that the decision was made not to do it 40  years ago and again more
recently. Perhaps that will change in the future  but name calling and cheap
shots are not going to help the situation. I  would rather have someone call
me or email me to have a ADULT and  productive conversation than read in VV
that the BOD is spineless and  corrupt. Will I have competition for my seat
next year? I actually hope so.  It would mean that membership actually cares
to make a difference and is  not just content to sit around and complain. As
for your donation and  membership fee, it's your choice. I am not going to
beg you to stay or to  donate the money to CORSA. I just hope you don't mind
being called a free  loader when you don't join and continue in your local
chapter, or are you  going to quit your chapter as well? I'm sure you're not
a freeloader but  others on the side of mandatory membership may when you
don't renew; just  so everyone is being called a freeloader equally. Jason  

-----Original Message-----
From: henry kaczmarek  [mailto:kaczmarek at charter.net] 
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:00  PM
To: Jason Cesana
Subject: Off List 

Jason
If you  didn't know. Allen was a director and a CORSA President. During his
tenure  the club had its finances in order, no deficits and the  club
prospered.

Bill Hubbell was also a director, and had to drop  out because of several
family members with severe medical problems--he's a  family practice doctor.

I've seen very closely worded responses from  several directors now, yours
being the latest.  I didn 't know the BoD  had talking points memos these
days.  Sure looks that way.

I've  said all I'm going to about this on V V.   I spent a lot of my spare  
time working for this club.  Numbers continue to decline, this latest  dues
increase is nothing more than a finger in the dike.  There is no  long-term 
plan to solve the club's financial problems.   Club is  coming down around 
your ears.  As you stand in the ashes of the club  and proclaim victory,
you'll do it without my money.

Until the dues  increase, I was going to donate 500.00 to CORSA when my car
was finished  (next spring) to show my appreciation to all the CORSA people
that helped  me. (the car shell was donated, and V V members took up a 
collection to  pay the shipping)   Guess ya lost that as well as my  
45.00...

To lose paying members to satisfy people who don't think that  the club's
benefits are worth their support?  I'll never see the logic  in that.  All
you offer is "What if's"  Can't govern by  that.

Hank Kaczmarek  

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