<VV> Sorry, Hello, ??

[Jason Cesana]

Members of VV and CORSA. I would like to take a moment to discuss the recent
chat about CORSA and the web site. The Board of Directors is currently
working on the upcoming contract negotiations with M&P. This will take up a
majority of our time for at least the next two months. While M&P has been
the management team for CORSA for many years now, the current Board felt
that we needed better word the contract that was presented to us to clarify
some of the wording in it. Since we have not started negotiations with M&P
yet I cannot go into more detail but once the contract has been signed then
I would be more than happy to present it to any member that wishes to read
it. 

We are also looking at revamping the web site so it can better serve the
general membership. We are looking at a new and improved E-Store with more
options to pay with (such as E-Check, PayPal, and regular Credit Cards).
This will be a large undertaking as well. We understand that the site is
seriously lacking in content and appearance. There will be much discussion
on this topic as well. There are many ideas out there that people of CORSA
have discussed here on VV as well as direct emails to the Board. While we
cannot incorporate ALL of them we are looking at many of the comments that
have put forth. 

I ask that ALL of you be patient with us. This upcoming year will be a
trying time for all of us while we try to bring CORSA "up to date" with this
century. We have a lot of work to do in the next few months and we will try
to keep the membership as informed as possible. If you would to chat with
your regions directors(s) please do not hesitate to drop any one of us an
e-mail or pick up the phone and call us. Our contact information is printed
in every issue of the Communique and our emails are listed on the CORSA
website. We will try to give you any info you are looking for. Some of us
are new to this so if we don't have an answer we will find out and get back
to you as fast as possible. Remember we are members of CORSA too and we want
this to work. None of us here want CORSA to disappear so we WILL work hard
to make this organization better for all of us. Happy Vairing! Jason Cesana
Eastern Director 1960 4 door 700.    

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From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Pleau
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:20 PM
To: 'Dave Hammelef'; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> Sorry, Hello, ??

There are many ways to search the VV archive.  Since I use Google all the
time I prefer to use it to search the archive. By putting
"site:vv.corvair.org" (no "") before what you are searching for you can find
any topic of interest.

I'll echo what JR, Craig and many others have said.  I joined the Corvair
Center right after Dick started it in the early 90s and have been on and off
it now and then.  I have been a member for the VVs since 1993, I'm a past
Chairman, a member of VairOrg and a member of VV-help the admins.  I really
like the push of a email list rather than a pull site like the CC.  That is
just a personal preference.  Right now we have the best of both worlds with
both formats available.

You are right the VVs are a email based discussion but the third bullet
point in the rules state:

 "- This is a Corvair list, try to keep posts to Corvairs, or at least about
cars or air cooled engine technology, especially:
        - No politics, unless they have *explicit* Corvair or automotive
content."

If you want to discuss the Webpage or any other CORSA related business, I
suggest you email the directors in your region (see page 2 of the
Communique) or all the CORSA directors @ corsabod at corvair.org.  

You have to remember CORSA only has two paid staff and updating the website
is behind a lot of their other duties.  I think CORSA has some volunteers
are going to help revamp the website.

Dennis


-----Original Message-----
From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Dave Hammelef
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:36 AM
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: <VV> Sorry, Hello, ??

Not sure how I came off as such a villian, let me back up a bit. 

I bought my corvair back in 03, 3 kids a collapsing economy working for GM
all got in the way off the hobby a few years back. 

Was a member of corsa in 03, 04 and I think 05. 

Just started getting back involved in my car this summer, and getting info.
Been on Corviar center for about 3 months and noticed a continuing
discussion about Corsa. 

Being a very web happy person, I am mortified by the Corsa website. Becouse
of the heated discussions and my surprise about the website. I started
trying to learn about corsa and what has happened recently (I do not
remember this level of discontent when I was  a member earlier). 

I have been trying to find somewhere that might have a corsa board discusion
or something where people were giving suggustions. I heard that VV was the
Corsa sponsered discussion area. 

So I came here looking for info. Since this is an email based discussion I
could not see past conversations so thought I would jump in and ask my
questions to get answers. 

Unfortunetly asking these questions came across as some kind of attack on
the status qou. Since I don't even know what the status qou is I don't know
how I attacked it, but I think I did. 

So Hello all and to those who's toes I stepped on and those I have offended
sorry. I did not mean to do it. 

Someone mentioned a VV Archive if someone could point me to it, or to where
Discussions about corsa can be found I would greatly appreciate the
information. 

Is there somewhere that discussions about new ideas and suggustions for
things Corsa might do take place on the web with the BOD's inputs? Would
like to see what things have been raised in the past and what folks thought
of them. 

Thanks for the guidance and again Sorry to those I offended. 


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