<VV> Reply... Subject: 64 Wagon

[Bill Hubbell]

Mark is making an absurd argument.  First of all, no matter what Mark does
to "imagineer" a Late Model station wagon, it will always be a more
fictional vehicle than Smitty's "64" wagon for the following reasons:

1. GM actually did make EM wagons and Smitty's wagon body is pure stock in
that regard; Mark's won't be by any stretch.

2. GM actually did offer two-tone paint for EM vehicles, and, although
Smitty's colors are not Factory Stock, who is to say that they would not
have been if a '64 wagon had been made?  It was also possible to get
'custom' paint jobs from the factory, and I suspect that had wagons been
available in 1964 this would have been a probable choice.

3. There actually were some EM Corvairs (1961) that came with cloth/vinyl
seats (much like Smitty's wagon, although, again, not in that color).

4. Wheel skirts were already an option for EM sedans and coupes.  It is
probable that they would have been available for wagons had they been made
beyond 1962, so the fact that a '64 wagon would have them is perfectly
plausible.

Bottom line, Mark, Smitty's '64 wagon IS a reality (and has been ever since
it was built in 1989).  For 20 years it has been plying the highways and
byways of this great country, logging over 300,000 miles (most of which
pulling a trailer or some other such thing) and generally showing the world
exactly how BIG a mistake GM made by NOT making more of them.  It has been
an ambassador of Goodwill for ALL Corvairs for longer than many VV readers
have even OWNED a Corvair.  It's value to our Corvair community has been
validated by awards too many to count, including Senior Class Concours,
numerous 1st place Autocross awards, etc.  It has earned our RESPECT and
ADMIRATION.

Live with it.

Bill

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[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of BBRT
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 9:37 AM
To: airvair at earthlink.net; Smitty Smith
Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: <VV> Reply... Subject: 64 Wagon

Mark,

I believe that the word "festooned" is rather offensive, IMHO.  To me it 
implies gaudy paint, bling, odd-ball things that aren't supposed to be 
there, like horns on a Cadillac, or chrome doodads, etc. Two-tone paint on 
Smitty's wagon is non-stock but tastefully done, in very moderate subdued 
colors. The interior as well, no outlandish designs or colors, but a quiet 
dark colors.  As for the fender skirts. I presume you know they were 
available as for early model cars? And during that time frame, hardly 
considered garish. "Custom car" is a whole lot different than such an insult

as "festooned".

Furthermore, I feel such a derogatory comments were out of place on Virtual 
Vairs.

No offense, mind you.

Chuck S


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To: "Smitty Smith" <vairologist at verizon.net>
Cc: "Virtual Vairs" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2009 1:32 AM
Subject: <VV> Subject: 64 Wagon


> Smitty,
>
> No offense meant, mind you. Taste is a matter of opinion, true. But the
> truth is that your tutone is hardly stock, and is obvious to most anyone
> very much a custom. Also, you DO have fender skirts, which are not stock
> items, either. And a custom car can be limited to a non-stock paint job.
> Also, your interior is far from stock looking as well. Face it, no matter
> how you slice it, it looks like a custom car, by most people's standards.
>
> If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's a duck.
>
> -Mark
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Smitty Smith <vairologist at verizon.net>
>> Subject: 64 Wagon
>>
>> I am glad Mark established the value of his input by saying "just my
> opinion". We all know the value of his opinion. On a serious note I don't
> see my 64 wagon as festooned. The body is totally stock Corvair. Exteror
> changes are limited to the two tone paint. Smitty
>
>
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