<VV> Implications of Polls

[Bill Elliott]

kenpepke at juno.com wrote:

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>I am not one that puts much faith in polls as they tend to be about as stable as the waves on the ocean. However, this morning I heard on the radio that President Obama's approval percentage has dropped to less than his elected percentage.  Does that mean that some Democrats are actually coming to the realization that all is not well?  
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It wasn't just Dems that voted for him.

>Are they becoming disillusioned with Socialism?  
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Don't bet on it. People who are unhappy with their pastor rarely are 
disillusioned with their religion. A lot of the Obama disapproval is 
from leftists unhappy he isn't moving the country towards socialism even 
faster. (Newspaper cover story that on Franken's first day he voted 
against the President's position on a high profile bill... implying that 
he wouldn't be just a hardcore Leftist as his critics have charged. Only 
when you dug into the story did you find that Franken and other Dems had 
taken a position to the _left_ of Obama on this bill... )

>Perhaps 'change' is not working out all that well for them?  
>Some of Congress is looking at the possibility of another 'stimulus' plan.  They realize the first one did not stimulate much of anything.  
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It was never intended to. It was clearly a spending bill.

>Is this a case of 'If at first you don't succeed, try, try again?'  But President Obama has said additional spending of money we do not have could possibly be detrimental the the US economy.  What was it that made him think it would be good the first time?  
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It was "good the first time" and had exactly the intended effect.  
"Billions in aid go to areas that backed Obama in '08"
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-07-08-redblue_N.htm

>Perhaps he is rethinking the 'change' idea.  
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Don't bet on it... he has bigger "change" in mind... especially now that 
he has a supermajority... the leftist dream Government.

>There is the possibility that Congress will consider doing something to actually stimulate growth this time.  
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Don't bet on it.... the Dems are philosophically against anything that 
would actually stimulate economic growth... they only know how to 
redistribute wealth, not create it. Even European Socialists (who 
proudly bear the "Socialist" banner) have matured to the point that they 
recognize the need for wealth to first be created before it can be 
redistributed. This puts them solidly to the economic right of American 
"Progressives".

>Who knows, if enough of the herd goes along with their thinking and starts consuming again things might turn around. All they would have to do would be to promote buying American and cut taxes from top to bottom.  Uh, not to much reason to hope for any of that.
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You got it; see my previous bullet. So far the way to pay for everything 
is to tax "the rich"... which includes small businesses. Collectively 
"the rich" are the ones  who drive the economy, provide jobs, etc. Take 
capital away from them to redistribute and you suddenly find fewer and 
fewer rich to tax from.

(Leftists don't see this as a bad thing... they philosophically would 
prefer a society where the wealth were distributed more equally even if 
that meant there was less actual wealth in the society. In the USSR, 
doctors, trashmen, and the unemployed all lived at roughly the same 
economic level...  around $400/month... . Leftists see this as 
philosophically superior to an economy that would have the doctor making 
$40,000/month, the trashman making $4,000/month, and the unemployed 
making $1200/month. Which do you think the doctor, the trashman, or the 
unemployed would prefer?)

Even Clinton understood this... he didn't balance the budget by 
restraining spending... he balanced the budget by allowing the creation 
of more "rich" which filled the tax coffers through economic expansion, 
not draconian tax increases. Again, the leftist mindset is 
philosophically opposed to economic growth in the private sector.

Only way to turn things around are to replace leftists with 
capitalists... and frankly I'm not betting on that either.

Bill