<VV> Engine Problems Downunder
Sethracer at aol.com
Sethracer at aol.com
Sun Jan 11 14:17:39 EST 2009
In a message dated 1/11/2009 7:48:53 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
smluther at optusnet.com.au writes:
Q1. We have pulled out the engine to replace the bushing to the
transmission, and the rear oil seals etc. etc. There are now NO
oil leaks. However, when putting back the engine my mechanic
tried another pressure plate from a spare engine I own. This of course
was the later type and now we know, doesn’t fit or work.
As a result we went back to the old pressure plate and also put on a
new clutch which I recently purchased. The result however is that
the clutch peddle needs to be pushed completely down to release
and that there is a slipping of the clutch when engaging into gear.
My mechanic discussed putting
spacers (washers) to reduce the space of the clutch disc.
Perhaps I am not explaining this properly – basically I have a slipping
engagement of the clutch between gears. What can be done?
Mark - I hope the clutch disc you installed is the "welded center" variety.
The riveted centers are problematic for clearance. But you will usually "hear"
the interference. As someone else suggested, the disc might be in
backwards. Three items need to match in the clutch system of the Corvair. The
pressure plate assembly, the flywheel and the pivot ball (that's the piece that
screws into the face of the differential). All three of them changed over the
years. It sounds like you are re-using all of the same parts that you had before
- except for the disc, which shouldn't matter. If the disc was too thick, as
a new one might be, it would cause the clutch to not disengage. That doesn't
sound like your problem. The disc might indeed be installed backwards and
rubbing on something. Also, be sure and check the routing of your clutch cable,
making sure it is still properly routed on the pulleys.
Q2. I have installed the SOURCE electronic ignition and have tried to get
an answer without luck to this next question. The ignition either can be
adjusted
to allow the engine to ‘flutter’ at the low end (acceleration start) or ‘
flutters’
at the top-end (at the end of acceleration). This is sort of a gasping for
fuel effect.
Mark - By adjustment, I assume you mean the timing adjustment at idle. A
couple of notes. First, you are removing and plugging the vacuum line for the
right side primary carb when doing your settings? This is a must do. After you
set the timing to factory spec, you should hook the hose back up - at the
same time watching the timing to see if the idle setting changes. It should not
move. If it does move, you will need to spend some time getting the car to
idle without the vacuum port open. This is quite common. If the car is
idling with the vacuum advance on, opening the throttle results in instant retard
of the spark, making the car fall on its face (acceleration wise). It is
worth working on this so throttle response will be top notch.
Anyway, my technician was wondering whether the voltage on the ignition
should change from 12V to 6 V due to the resistor connection? (or should it
remain at 12 V?)
Is this supposed to happen? What should / could be checked to eliminate
this fluttering effect?
As someone already mentioned, there are really two separate systems being
supplied here. One is the ignition box from The Source (it really looks like a
Pertronix box, but I don't know for sure) the second item is the coil. In
most cases, they are fed by the same power source out of convenience. That is
because they both live in the same area of the motor. You can tailor the
voltage to the needs of the specific system if you want. The ignition box will
probably work as well on 6-8 volts as well as the battery supplied 12-13 volts.
The coil might be more sensitive to the higher voltage. Pertronix has a chart
of coils on it's web site and a calculation page.
_http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/flame/coils/chart.aspx_
(http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/flame/coils/chart.aspx)
What type of coil can I use with the Ignitor™? How do I check my coils
resistance? (12V negative ground only)
To determine if your systems coil is compatible with the Ignitor, some
measurements should be taken prior to installation of the Ignitor. Caution… While
performing this test, never leave the ignition switch on for more than 30
seconds at a time.
Set your voltmeter to a 15 or 20-volt scale. Attach an 18 or 20 AWG jumper
wire from the negative coil terminal to an engine ground. Attach positive (red)
lead of your voltmeter to the positive side of the coil, and the negative
(black) lead to an engine ground. Turn the ignition switch to the run position.
Now read the voltage at the positive coil terminal. Turn the ignition switch
off. If the voltage measured is approximately 12 volts, no resistance wire
is present. A typical resistance wire will provide 9 - 6 volts.
The next step is to determine the resistance in the primary ignition. Label
the wires attached to the coil terminals and note their appropriate location.
Make sure that the ignition switch is off and disconnect all wires from the
coil. Adjust your meter to the lowest ohm scale. If you are using an analog
style meter make sure to zero the needle.
Measure from the negative terminal to the positive terminal. Write your
measurement down.
Now the maximum system amperage can be determined, divide your voltage
measurement by your coil resistance measurement. This will give you the system
current or amperage.
Four and six cylinder engines should not exceed 4 amps. Eight cylinder
engines should not exceed 8 amps. If the total amperage in your system is higher
than the amount recommended for your application, you should install a ballast
resistor.
Example
Voltage 12
Resistance 1.5
12 / 1.5 = 8
Total amperage 8
I would appreciate a posting of my questions to any and everyone that can
possible assist
and answer.
Good Luck Mark!
Seth Emerson
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