<VV> ring job - looking for running engine

Sat Jan 3 21:29:22 EST 2009

Sounds good to me.  I'll find out on Monday.

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Shaun McGarvey <shaun_mcgarvey at shaw.ca> wrote:
> The heads coming untorqued would account for the loss of power and hard
> starting. The idler pulley coming untorqued would account for the loose
> belt. The loose belt could account for the overheating.
> I'd get it away from that mechanic, retorque the heads and do a compression
> test. That should tell you what else needs doing.
>
> yea, Vairily ... Shaun
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Smith" <gornzilla at gmail.com>
> To: "Corvair List" <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> ring job - looking for running engine
>
>
>> The car is still at the shop.  It was smoking too much from the pipe
>> to drive anywhere.  I'll check the plugs and the compression on
>> Monday.
>>
>> The car was getting hard to stop each time I stopped for gas.  Sort of
>> like a coil going out.  If I let it cool down it'd start up only it
>> had to work at it.  When it started smoking, it lost power, and I
>> killed the engine.  The fan belt came loose and there was a ton of
>> smoke.  I had it towed home and checked the oil.  It was thick and
>> black.
>>
>> The next day, I put the fan belt back on, and tried to restart it.
>> Oil poured out where the filter attaches.  Not from the side.  No
>> place to work on it, so I took it to a shop.  He said the oil pump had
>> a mechanical failure.
>>
>> I didn't hear any chirping.  When I pulled over it was smoking about
>> everywhere.  Dipstick was hot.
>>
>> I went back to the shop after he got it running again.  Up on the
>> lift, you could see that the passenger side heads were loose.  A
>> visible gap.  He said ring job and I asked if he'd just retorque the
>> heads first.  It fires right up and smokes a little.  After 30-60
>> seconds it's like the smoke screen on Spy Hunter.
>>
>> I don't think I missed any of the good questions.  If I did, please let me
>> know.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Roger Gault <r.gault at sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Dave,
>>> What does, "The oil pump was stuck open and was dumping a lot of oil",
>>> mean???
>>> Where was the oil coming out?
>>>
>>> A few questions come to mind.
>>> Pull the top of the aircleaner off and see if huge amounts of smoke are
>>> coming out of the breather pipe that runs between the aircleaner and the
>>> top
>>> of the engine.
>>> Pull the plugs and see if one of them is covered with oil.
>>> Run a compression check.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dave Smith" <gornzilla at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Harry Yarnell" <hyarnell1 at earthlink.net>
>>> Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 6:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: <VV> ring job - looking for running engine
>>>
>>>
>>>> I put about 50 miles on it in LA in stop and go traffic, then drove up
>>>> to Sacramento the next.  About 350 miles on I-5 doing 70.  I was
>>>> keeping an eye on the gauges and a ton of smoke started coming out the
>>>> exhaust.  I killed the key and stopped.  Stuck in Lodi again. Lost a
>>>> quart of oil.  The oil pump was stuck open and was dumping a lot of
>>>> oil.  I had it towed 20 miles.
>>>>
>>>> Some of the heads on the right side of the engine were loose, so they
>>>> were retorqued.  There was an exhaust leak from one of them.  The
>>>> smoke comes from the exhaust pipe.  The engine was supposed to have be
>>>> about 2,500 miles on a rebuild.  The mechanic said it might've been
>>>> rebuilt and there wasn't any sounds from the bottom end.
>>>>
>>>> I like my NSU being a project car, not the Corvair.
>>>>
>>>> -Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Harry  Yarnell <hyarnell1 at earthlink.net>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I assume the smoke is coming out the exhaust pipe, not from under or >
>>>> > out
>>>
>>> of
>>>>
>>>> > the engine bay. Makes a big difference.
>>>> >
>>>> > Harry Yarnell
>>>> > Perryman garage and orphanage
>>>> > Perryman, MD
>>>> > hyarnell1 at earthlink.net
>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Smith" <gornzilla at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 4:28 PM
>>>> > Subject: Re: <VV> ring job - looking for running engine
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Thanks, all.  I plan on showing up at the local meeting and I joined
>>>> >> CORSA.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The description of the car is what got me to buy it.  I figured
>>>> >> correctly it wouldn't sell for much since it's a Texas car and the
>>>> >> body is a bit rough.  Plus December is a bad time to sell a vehicle.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It started right up and didn't smoke until 20 miles from home. I had
>>>> >> it towed after it died.  I put about 350 miles on it.  I can try some
>>>> >> Marvel Mystery Oil but it's undriveable as it is.  Way more than any
>>>> >> 2-stroke motorcycles or scooter I've seen.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Dave
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
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