<VV> Communique (this is Re to several posts)

[Tim Verthein]

Yeah, it's the price of admission as long as you want to do it the old way.

I've got $300 invested in a 1918 Victor Victrola in my living room.  I just restored the reproducer.  I don't try to tell anyone it's the way to go, and playing old 78's is way better than dinking around bothering to download any music. For every Victrola playing a Billy Murray record, there are about 1.4 million songs being downloaded.  I don't insist that my favorite artists put out vinyl records. Or shellac in the case of the 78's. 

I'll just let the Corvair world fight it out now, knowing full well that I am right, and in 5 years or less the magazine will be online, or membership will be over $50 a year to keep that pretty book going out to the remaining 2000 members, while all the young people join non-marque specific car clubs that are operating in this millennium. And all those non-Corsa Corvairists will be getting all the information they need off the internet at no cost, which is what thousands of us do now anyway. 

And yes, I know what it's like to be on dialup.  that's what I have to use at my folks house.  I sued it for over 12 years.  I was in a small town when internet came to town, and a 4800k connection was FAST and the internet company used to call ME to see if it was working OK, because they only had like 4 subscribers.  And yes, I used to call long distance to do it.  And I even had Hughes for 18 months.  The dish is still on my garage several years later. And it sucks for those stuck on dialup.

The Communique is an expensive boutique magazine, that's a very pretty and expensive was to disseminate information. There are many automotive organizations that provide services similar to CORSA (insurance, events, etc) that do not publish a magazine, and have their information all on line. 

It'll be interesting to see how things are stacking up with the current economy, the increasing costs, and the unwillingness of people to change with the times -- and I don't mean that as a dig at you Mark, but that's how it is for many. Once people drop out, either because they don't want to pay the increasing costs, or whatever, it's harder and harder to replace them.

Tim in Bovey




--- On Wed, 2/18/09, airvair at earthlink.net <airvair at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: airvair at earthlink.net <airvair at earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: <VV> Communique (this is Re to several posts)
> To: "Tim Verthein" <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 5:00 PM
> Tim,
> 
> At least we agree on one thing.
> 
> And I'm so glad for you that you have high-speed
> available. Hope it's at an
> affordable rate. As for me, my town was the last in the
> area to even get
> dial-up. When computers first started taking off, I
> didn't get one until we
> didn't have to dial long distance (and back then, long
> distance cost big
> bucks-per minute no less). My town was the last to get
> pushbutton phones.
> Yea, I live in the backwash of technology. So sue me.
> 
> Just yesterday I called up my phone company in response to
> their automated
> phone solicitation for their high-speed internet. And AGAIN
> I was told that
> they didn't have it in my area - YET. LOL
> 
> Sure, I could get HughesNet or Time Worthless. And have to
> pay up to three
> times what I'm paying now. I can't afford that.
> 
> So let's stop beating a dead horse. The idea of an
> electronic Communique is
> DOA. Now and forever. Never gonna happen.
> 
> Let's get to the heart of the issue. As for saving
> CORSA members their
> membership, it's true that the two major costs are
> administrative and the
> CC. The former we're stuck with. The latter we COULD
> reduce substancially
> IF we just dropped the "free" CC altogether.
> Maybe put something online
> (but I for one wouldn't bother), or maybe charge extra
> for a magazine
> subscription. Hey, that's the answer! Charge extra for
> a magazine
> subscription. Yea, right. The printed CC is one of the few
> benefits that
> members actually see. It's one of the only things that
> even makes CORSA
> membership worthwhile, as far as a lot of members are
> concerned.
> 
> So what does that leave you with? The plain fact that
> we're stuck with a
> printed CC, and all the expense incurred with it. Like it
> or not, that's
> the bottom line. So just suck it up and pony up the
> increase in dues, boys.
> It's the price of admission, as they say.
> 
> -Mark 
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Tim Verthein <minoxphotographer at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: RE: <VV> Communique (this is Re to
> several posts)
> >
> > Nope. You can't duplicate the magazine at home.
> Nope. No way. Can't be
> done. You're right. 100% Totally. Yup. 
> >
> > And high speed internet is rapidly becoming available
> everywhere on the
> planet. I'm in a teensy town of 400 people in northern
> Minnesota. There's
> high speed at my house, at the coffee shop half a block
> away, at the
> library a block away and at my work in the next town. Not
> only that, there
> are three completely different ways to GET high speed
> internet in this
> small town, DSL, Satellite, and cable. 
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/18/09, airvair at earthlink.net
> <airvair at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > From: airvair at earthlink.net
> <airvair at earthlink.net>
> > > Subject: RE: <VV> Communique (this is Re to
> several posts)
> > > 
> > > Online Communique? Oh Gawd NO! A thousand times
> NO, NO,
> > > NO!!!
> > > 
> > > I am on dial-up and just yesterday a friend sent
> me a post
> > > with three
> > > pictures attached. It took an hour and twenty
> minutes to
> > > download. You
> > > think I'm going to spend the hours (maybe
> days)
> > > downloading the CC off the
> > > net? Are you mad?
> > > 
> > > Besides, no printer I know of, or could afford,
> could print
> > > it out as nice
> > > a copy as what arrives in the mail. Slick paper,
> beautiful
> > > pictures, all on
> > > a full-sized folded, stapled magazine. Just TRY
> to
> > > duplicate THAT! Yea,
> > > right. You can take your clunky "download of
> the
> > > net" idea and
> > > you-know-what with it. If it ever came to being
> forced to
> > > get it off the
> > > net, I just simply wouldn't. Even if I DID
> have the
> > > highest speed
> > > connection possible.
> > > 
> > > -Mark
> > > 
> >