<VV> Nos van Grill

Sat Dec 12 22:52:35 EST 2009

NOS Grill for van The person that is looking for an nos Van Grill I have a van grill that looks like its nos and was in a box when I bought everything from Charlie Dye If its not NOS its very close to being Nos but there is no marks on the paint parts or dings or dents in it. I also have 6 vans out here now with all the parts on them You can Email me or call me Iam on Craigslist under Arizona Mesa/ Apache Junction Thanks for letting me say my piece I hope I did it right this time 
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> 1. Fw: The Rising Price of Corvairs (J R Read_HML)
> 2. Re: The Rising Price of Corvairs (J R Read_HML)
> 3. What Is That (HallGrenn at aol.com)
> 4. The Rising Price of Corvairs (Mikeamauro at aol.com)
> 5. Re: my fianc?' and the 65' Corsa project/parts car (Jay Pitchford)
> 6. LM power top questions (tkalp at cox.net)
> 7. NOS Part needed (Jason Cesana)
> 8. Re: clutch pilot bushing removal tool (Mark Durham)
> 9. Re: NOS Part needed (hallgrenn at aol.com)
> 10. Re: Rising price of non-Vairs and dumb moves (Tony Underwood)
> 11. Re: clutch pilot bushing removal tool (Tony Underwood)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:10:23 -0600
> From: "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: <VV> Fw: The Rising Price of Corvairs
> To: "VirtualVairs AA" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
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> Sorry, I just meant to send to VV. Not to a whole list PLUS VV.
> Later, JR
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:07:45 -0600
> From: "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> The Rising Price of Corvairs
> To: "Bretts Vette" <brettsvette at hotmail.com>,
> <dkeillor at tconcepts.com>, <shortle556 at earthlink.net>,
> <airvair at earthlink.net>, <corvair at fnader.com>,
> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> Yes, it is a supply and demand thing. While the supply might be gradually 
> falling, I suspect that the demand could possibly fall faster. Guess I'll 
> wait around and see. <GRIN>
> Later, JR
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bretts Vette" <brettsvette at hotmail.com>
> To: <dkeillor at tconcepts.com>; <shortle556 at earthlink.net>; 
> <airvair at earthlink.net>; <corvair at fnader.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> The Rising Price of Corvairs
> 
> 
> >
> > Bottom line is this: The car/fc/wagon whatever is worth only what someone 
> > is willing to pay for it. No more, no less.
> >
> > Semper Fi
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:39:02 EST
> From: HallGrenn at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> What Is That
> To: westerncanadacorsa at shaw.ca
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <c22.720be747.38557586 at aol.com>
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> 
> Joel,
> 
> To follow up on the "desert air" package on the 4dr Monza in Kansas City, I 
> don't know of any package for the FC that includes the dedicated, filtered 
> ducting that was available on the LMs. The oil bath filter, hose and 
> special inlet for the air cleaners is the only option I have read about or 
> seen. FCs may not have needed it because of the location of the dual intakes 
> on the sides of the vehicles.
> 
> Talk about (probable) missed opportunities. I would really like to buy 
> the KC car. The ducted intake for the cooling air would be something to 
> have. Obviously not available for AC cars in '65.
> 
> Bob 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:08:48 EST
> From: Mikeamauro at aol.com
> Subject: <VV> The Rising Price of Corvairs
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> "...I might take the cake in this group as far as price paid. In February 
> I purchased from Eric Starkey 1969 Monza Convert. #2891. This car had 
> 21,000 original miles and is a very good example of a survivor. It is a very 
> clean original well optioned car. ... I paid between 10 and 20K for this car. 
> Now how about the money people have put into their cars? I'm talking about 
> the beautiful restorations that don't get to see the highways..."
> 
> Timothy, you are sorta' describing my 64 Spyder convertible. Since it was 
> professionally restored--even though, mechanically, it's ready to drive 
> anywhere--it only gets it "legs" stretched about every 30-days. I do this to 
> keep everything working correctly. Following the holidays, I'm seriously 
> considering putting the Spyder up for sale (I've got to pull the documentation 
> together, so I can prove what the car is really about). This is a car I've 
> owned since 1972; it is perfect in every way, but I've got two other 
> Corvairs and could use the room in the garage. I'll be asking more than what most 
> people think a Corvair is worth; as such, I may end up keeping it into my 
> golden years.
> 
> Mike Mauro
> http://rides.webshots.com/album/53163910VSgRLc 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:19:17 -0500
> From: Jay Pitchford <jay.pitchford at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> my fianc?' and the 65' Corsa project/parts car
> To: Mark Durham <62vair at gmail.com>
> Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org, Ken Wildman <k-wildman at onu.edu>
> Message-ID:
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> Ray - smart move. Expose her to Corvairs, and if she doesn't run screaming,
> you're probably OK. If she actually squeals in delight, PUT A RING ON HER
> FINGER RIGHT THEN AND THERE!!!!!
> 
> Jay
> 
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Mark Durham <62vair at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Ray its a rare thing, don't let her go! Mark Durham
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Ken Wildman <k-wildman at onu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Ray:
> > >
> > > You are wise beyond your years. :)
> > >
> > > It's a great idea to get your fianc?e involved in a hobby you both can
> > > share.
> > >
> > > Kudos!
> > >
> > > Ken
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:08:33 -0500 (EST)
> From: tkalp at cox.net
> Subject: <VV> LM power top questions
> To: VirtualVairs at corvair.org
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> Converting my '65 Corsa to a power top, the PO started the process and 
> now I have all the parts to complete it. First I need to know where is 
> the stock switch located (I know the bottom edge of the dash) Which side 
> of the steering column and how far from the column, would be great.
> 
> Second is I need to know where to drill the 1" hole for the wiring loom 
> plug to pass into the Convertible top well. The assembly manual shows 
> vague locations, but I would like to get as close as possible. An exact 
> measurement on the hole size would be very helpful.
> 
> tkalp
> wichita, ks
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:38:17 -0500
> From: "Jason Cesana" <jacesana1 at cox.net>
> Subject: <VV> NOS Part needed
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> I know this is a long shot but I have a friend that is restoring a 63
> Greenbrier. He has an OK front grill but is wishing he could find a NOS one.
> Anyone out there have one or a lead on one? Would mean a lot to be able to
> have the van look showroom after the resto. Thanks folks.
> 
> 
> 
> Jason Cesana
> 
> 1960 4 door 700
> 
> Bay State Corvair Club 2007
> 
> Eastern Director CORSA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:08:56 -0800
> From: Mark Durham <62vair at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> clutch pilot bushing removal tool
> To: Test User <vair65 at sisna.com>
> Cc: VirtualVairs at corvair.org, fastvair at yahoogroups.com
> Message-ID:
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> 
> This slide hammer puller works great, its what I used, Harbor Freight,
> $19.99.
> 
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=5469
> Mark durham
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Test User <vair65 at sisna.com> wrote:
> 
> > check out the tool on www.SpringerTool.com <http://www.springertool.com/><
> > http://www.springertool.com/>.
> > ordered a medium sized one to remove the roller bearing bushing that had
> > been in the engine since 1986. came out in 5 minutes with no cleanup. when
> > you look at the order page it says the med will go down to .4?? which is
> > incorrect. when the screw is removed the pilot bushing hole has to be .555
> > for the tool to clear. stock bushing measues .590 so it shouldn't be a
> > problem. after inserting the tool you insert the screw and once it's
> > against
> > the crank the bushing will start to come out. he's in the process of making
> > a new design but this will do the job. the small size won't work. it's a
> > very well made tool and i don't see how he can make, sell and mail for $25.
> > no more grease, bread or whatever(VBG)-mike mann
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:38:38 EST
> From: hallgrenn at aol.com
> Subject: Re: <VV> NOS Part needed
> To: jacesana1 at cox.net, virtualvairs at corvair.org
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> 
> In a message dated 12/12/2009 7:38:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> jacesana1 at cox.net writes:
> 
> I know this is a long shot but I have a friend that is restoring a 63
> Greenbrier. He has an OK front grill but is wishing he could find a NOS 
> one.
> Anyone out there have one or a lead on one? Would mean a lot to be able to
> have the van look showroom after the resto. Thanks folks.
> 
> 
> 
> Jason Cesana
> 
> 
> 
> 
> If he can't find NOS tell him to start polishing his "OK front grill" with 
> "Nevr Dull" to bring it back to new. It's a zen thing. If he does use 
> Nevr Dull tell him to start on one end and leave one side untouched so he can 
> see the improvement and not go nuts. And expect to take a long time......
> 
> Bob Hall
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:06:01 -0500
> From: Tony Underwood <tony.underwood at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Rising price of non-Vairs and dumb moves
> To: "peter koehler"
> <pkoehler01 at atlanticbb.net>,virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091212204614.035afea8 at pop.east.cox.net>
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> 
> At 12:04 AM 12/12/2009, peter koehler wrote:
> >Reading Matt's Corvair trade history I would like to
> >relate my biggest automotive trade blunder. My first
> >motorcycle was a spankin' new Honda CB750 K1 4 cylinder
> >road monster. At the time one of the fastest bikes
> >available (note: owner tested to 145 MPH - really dumb!!).
> >Not your best choice for a rookie motorcyclist. One of my
> >roommates at college had a very nice 1970 Chevelle SS 454
> >coupe that he brought to Michigan from Powell, Wyoming. It
> >was special in that he ordered it with the biggest and
> >baddest engine available; the 450 HP LS6. He also ordered
> >a close ratio Muncie M22 "Rock Crusher" four speed and
> >little else.
> 
> 
> 
> I once demonstrated how a 1970 LS6 Chevelle was not quicker than a 
> '66 Plymouth Satellite with a 426 in it... only by a door's length 
> but the old Mopar maintained that small lead all the way through to 
> where it counted. The bowie smile on the Chevelle owner's face had 
> a duller sheen after that, especially after how he'd been picking on 
> me about how he was gonna blow my doors with his Terry Walters 
> prepped LS6 (while the 426 in the Sat. had been assembled on a big 
> oily tree stump in my old racer buddy Don Keesey's garage one weekend 
> from mostly parts and pieces he had left over from his "real" racing 
> days).
> 
> 
> ...last time the Chevelle pilot ever spoke a word to me. ;)
> 
> 
> I also thought it was a dumb move to sell my '66 Satellite... took 9 
> years to find another (which is in the garage out back as we speak, 
> in need of some care and feeding since it's been in storage since 
> 1981). Only problem is that this replacement Satellite has a 
> 383-hiperf engine donated by a demolished 68 Super-Bee... good 
> enough for the moment I guess. Sat. is parked beside a '63 Spyder 
> convert. that's a long term project currently up on blocks, no 
> driveline/interior/top.
> 
> 
> I once traded an older Hasselblad camera w/80mm2.8 and spare magazine 
> for a '63 Monza coupe.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> tony.. 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 22:34:06 -0500
> From: Tony Underwood <tony.underwood at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> clutch pilot bushing removal tool
> To: <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
> Message-ID: <6.2.3.4.2.20091212215231.035c7d98 at pop.east.cox.net>
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> At 09:20 PM 12/11/2009, Dennis Pleau wrote:
> >Four slices of bread $0.20. This tool $25.00. I would need to remove 125
> >pilot bushings before I broke even. Actually I don't use bread anymore, I
> >have a 5/8 coarse tap which works great. I got the tap with a bunch of
> >tools I bought at an estate sale, so I can't say what I paid for it. I
> >bought a coffee can of taps, drill bits, easyouts (a misnomer) , etc... for
> >something like $10.00.
> 
> 
> 
> A while back I took out a pilot bushing with a tap, bushing was 
> rather worn, hence the replacement with new... and afterwards while 
> piddling around with it a bit I noticed that the tap had knurled the 
> bronze slightly and that a "reaming" with another input shaft to 
> smooth things out made the bushing a snug fit again.
> 
> ...I didn't put it back in an engine...
> 
> But the bushing is still on a shelf in the basement. ;)
> 
> Odd thing about that particular engine: It came out of a mortified 
> dune buggy that hadn't run since 1971, sat in a buddy's lot behind 
> his shop for over two decades covered in honeysuckle and had two 
> different bumblebee nests embedded in its rotting fiberglass 
> body. Buggy got rescued, was a mess, driveline was about all that 
> was worth saving. The engine was partly pulled down and checked and 
> it looked great inside, just put it back together as-is. Was gonna 
> put it behind a 4-sp and stick it in a black '65 Monza at Bill 
> Burleson's place that had no engine but a PG transaxle (plan was to 
> swap the PG to a 4-sp) but instead things changed at the last minute 
> and it kept the PG . To make room for the converter pilot, the new 
> pilot bushing got popped back out via the bread trick since nobody 
> could find Bill's tap again at the time. Kept that bushing too... 
> in the top tray of my tool box.
> 
> After the engine went in (never started) and the owner lost interest 
> then storage for the car, the black Monza ended up among the fleet 
> here, as a part of a package deal... no interior, most of the trim 
> removed etc. But... it had an engine. Then Rick Stansbury bent up 
> his green #5 car.
> 
> Took the engine back out and made Rick a smoking deal on the black 
> Monza body, sans doors and front deck lid (which I still have here, 
> Rick was gonna use the lightened stuff off his bent #5 racer), to 
> become his replacement race car... and work started on it. He spent 
> several weekends (with a little help from me) cutting and welding and 
> fitting... then Rick died. I was told his wife liquidated most of 
> the Vair stuff... I understand the black car was sold off as 
> scrap. ~~~ >:-o
> 
> The engine ended up getting its pilot bushing put back in AGAIN (not 
> the knurled one but the breaded one) and it went into the formerly 
> green/now maroonish'bronze '62 convertible that had been without an 
> engine for a couple decades itself. This engine was finally started 
> for the first time in 35 years and ran great, and is a strong runner 
> for a 110. It's going with us tomorrow to the chapter meeting in 
> spite of the cold... needs to be run a bit, been sitting for a month 
> anna half since winter arrived.
> 
> 
> ...so how's my annoying stories string going?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> tony.. 
> 
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