<VV> VirtualVairs Digest, Vol 59, Issue 26

Fri Dec 4 12:41:34 EST 2009

To anyone that wants to Know Charlie dye is not in Business anymore. After the Problem with Mark Of Vintage car care Passing those bad Checks Charlie was going to Crush everything. He was Aproched by John Seams and Asked if charlie would give him the same deal that Charlie gave Mark A hand shake later and John had all the cars, Rampsides and vans not from just his one lot but from the secret lot plus all the parts plus everything in all those sheds. John made Charlie a Partner Just so Charlie has something to do. ( I hope he dosn't let him Advertise) Or maybe he will advertise like he did. Anyways They moved everything to Johns Inventory In Apache Junction Az. were they have an Ebay Business a Craigslist Business and a Repair place with a couple of old timers working for them to rebuild engines and stuff. They do repairs of all kinds and Interior work. No body work. They even have a pad for Ultravan hookup as they repair them. They are trying to save the corvair. And get this if your are a member with a club in good standings and a Corsa Member you get a 7% discount on anything. Its only 4% if you are one or the other. There numbers are 480-242-1211 and the Shop is 623-698-9313 

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> 1. Re: parts scrappage (Chris & Bill Strickland)
> 2. Re: "Fixed" Incomes - NO CORVAIR - Humor-ish (Ken Wildman)
> 3. Re: The future of publishing? (Bryan Blackwell)
> 4. Re: CORSA (airvair at earthlink.net)
> 5. Re: A Spacey Question (Chris & Bill Strickland)
> 6. Re: Dir`s Com - now "Fixed Incomes" - NO CORVAIR (Ken Wildman)
> 7. Weak brake action (Charles McKinley)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:44:23 -0800
> From: Chris & Bill Strickland <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> parts scrappage
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <4B193C67.1080103 at earthlink.net>
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> 
> >... members involved in moving stuff to where it can be saved? I for one would be glad to pick up a load of Vair parts and take them to a vendor maybe even for just costs (if costs include food, equipment, etc.-- Basically I get a free road trip).
> >
> 
> Ahh, the basic "free lunch" -- let's see, 16 + 3 or 4 = about 20 tons. 
> 20 x $200 (sorta an average price for scrap over the last few years 
> around here) = $4,000 maybe, and if one swings the deal right, they will 
> pick up and haul (no mean feat when you are talking 20 tons).
> 
> Sounds like the scrapper is a betteer choice fiscally when compared to 
> giving it away because you can't sell it. 
> 
> For you rust belt guys, I have scrapped a 65 Corsa and a 60 4-door 
> somewhat recently, both stripped, both rusty for this part of the world, 
> but salvageable, both locally advertised as freebies to Corvair folks, 
> as if you could get anyone to take it away -- but when there are no 
> local takers, it can't set in the yard forever, and a hundred bucks for 
> a trip to the crusher will buy more parts from a vendor, or pay club 
> dues, or ...
> 
> Words are great, but is there anybody out there trying to apprentice 
> themselves to Phoenix Charlie? I didn't think so.
> 
> And it is not just Corvairs -- there is a fabulous wealth of old 
> Porsche parts in a barn in McMinville, and the guy is getting older and 
> talks of retiring, but there is only one person in the world that has 
> even a sorta good idea of what is and where it is in that barn, and out 
> in the field behind it. Besides, he lives in the other end of the barn. 
> His kid is into building race cars, not keeping old parts, and the 
> grandkid is an aspiring Hollywood child actor with an agent and screen 
> credits, so ... 
> 
> Parts Hoarders are a dying breed, and coupled with solid waste and 
> nuisance laws, it is getting harder to hoard a vast collection, not easier.
> 
> Not unlike CORSA, where it seems it takes a few harsh words to even get 
> folks to talk about the problems -- seems like this happens about every 
> six months around here, some folks talk, nothing happens, and alas! the 
> staus doesn't change ...
> 
> I freely admit that I'm not a guy full of big organizational ideas, but 
> I suspect, that if Mr Jackson had more space alloted to that column, he 
> could have offered more that just his "Hey! Wake up People!" call of agony.
> 
> Bill Strickland
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:46:44 -0500
> From: "Ken Wildman" <k-wildman at onu.edu>
> Subject: Re: <VV> "Fixed" Incomes - NO CORVAIR - Humor-ish
> To: <Sethracer at aol.com>, <ravensong13 at verizon.net>, <bwschug at att.net>,
> <virtualvairs at corvair.org>, <alhilderbrand at att.net>
> Message-ID: <003d01ca7501$5e472b60$1ad58220$@edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Well, there are "fixed incomes" and fixed incomes. Generally the term
> refers to incomes with no cost of living (COL) adjustments. The term could
> as easily apply to someone employed or someone retired.
> 
> For most retirees at least some part of income is COL adjusted.
> In fact Social Security benefits rise a little faster than inflation because
> of a slight mathematical quirk in the calculation. Investment income, on
> the other hand, varies depending on the economy and the investment
> strategies employed.
> 
> Just a few comments on some posts I've read. Since I don't want to get into
> a debate I won't use name. :) 
> 
> If your investments are still down 40%, get a new strategy or a new
> financial adviser. The 40% figure represents the lowest point in the market
> around the beginning of the year. As an example my investments in equities
> are down around 15% from their highest point and are still coming up.
> 
> Framing required membership in some sort of Libertarian mode clearly leaves
> out two principles of that model -- personal responsibility and the "rights"
> of private organizations to set their own rules. Think of it as
> Pay-to-play. If you want the benefits of the organization you should be
> responsible enough to pay. If an organization wishes to impose some charge
> for the services provided...
> 
> Finally, I don't understand why someone would resign from the club because
> they are upset that other's don't contribute. That seems to me to allow
> others to define your own choices. If the club provides value to you, then
> it shouldn't matter what other people feel.
> 
> Of course in all of this Your Mileage May Vary. As for me, I'll continue to
> pay dues. I'd support any steps taken to provide value-added to membership
> by restricting or limiting benefits to non-members.
> 
> Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Sethracer at aol.com
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:02 AM
> To: ravensong13 at verizon.net; bwschug at att.net; virtualvairs at corvair.org;
> alhilderbrand at att.net
> Subject: <VV> "Fixed" Incomes - NO CORVAIR - Humor-ish
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bruce wrote:
> "Every time I hear someone moaning about being on a "fixed income" I want 
> to scream."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> So Seth writes:
> 
> My income isn't fixed - still broke!
> 
> Actually, it is "fixed" - The way you "fix" a cat!
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:48:55 -0500
> From: Bryan Blackwell <bryan at skiblack.com>
> Subject: Re: <VV> The future of publishing?
> To: The Reinharts <jtreinhart at omnitelcom.com>
> Cc: VirtualVairs <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
> Message-ID: <AF053636-3F61-4EBF-9E43-968000F6B449 at skiblack.com>
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> 
> Yes, this is a great idea. We have the server. Scanners are cheap.
> 
> Who will do it?
> 
> --Bryan
> 
> On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:58 AM, The Reinharts wrote:
> 
> > Bruce, What a great collection. Wouldn't it be interesting if 20 
> > years ago,
> > someone started scanning these into a file, to put in a server, so 
> > everyone
> > could enjoy looking at them? That is what should have been done. Is 
> > it too
> > late? The reading enjoyment and the information contained within these
> > publications would be immeasurable if accessible on the web. 
> > Wouldn't you
> > agree?
> >
> > Jamie
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:51:59 -0500
> From: "airvair at earthlink.net" <airvair at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> CORSA
> To: "Rick Norris" <ricknorris at suddenlink.net>,
> virtualvairs at corvair.org, "Matt Nall" <PatioMatt at aol.com>
> Message-ID: <380-22009125416515962 at earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> Always thought Matt was in a fog. Here it's been all that smoke.
> 
> -Mark
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Rick Norris <ricknorris at suddenlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: <VV> CORSA
> >
> > > As a person who smokes $37 worth of cigs per week, lost several
> hundred 
> > > $$ last month in casinos, buys two..if it's a good deal!
> > > You know what my answer is..
> > > Matt Nall
> >
> > Uhh...COUGH, HACK, COUGH, HACK HACK!!!
> >
> > The Lone Haranguer 
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2009 08:54:47 -0800
> From: Chris & Bill Strickland <lechevrier at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: <VV> A Spacey Question
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <4B193ED7.2010609 at earthlink.net>
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> 
> 
> >I found my Clarks repro spacer. It measured 0.375 - 0.377 depending on
> >the location of the measurement. Whoever guessed [or knew] 3/8" was correct.
> >
> 
> Dave, Thank you. Bill Strickland
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:57:02 -0500
> From: "Ken Wildman" <k-wildman at onu.edu>
> Subject: Re: <VV> Dir`s Com - now "Fixed Incomes" - NO CORVAIR
> To: "'Jim Houston'" <jhouston001 at cfl.rr.com>, "'Bruce Schug'"
> <bwschug at att.net>
> Cc: 'VirtualVairs' <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
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> 
> Jim: 
> 
> The reason is very simple. There has been virtually no inflation during
> 2009 so the cost of living has not increased (based on the CPI) and so there
> is no calculated COL for Social Security.
> 
> In fact the COL, again based on the Consumer Price Index, may end the year
> slightly negative.
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
> [mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of Jim Houston
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:24 AM
> To: Bruce Schug
> Cc: VirtualVairs
> Subject: Re: <VV> Dir`s Com - now "Fixed Incomes" - NO CORVAIR
> 
> Bruce: You said :
> 
> Social Security - a guaranteed income which gives guaranteed annual 
> cost of living increases.
> 
> For some reason, Social Security isn't listening to you... we are going 
> to get NO cost of living increase in 2010!!!
> 
> Jim Houston
> '65 Corsa
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 11:58:39 -0500
> From: Charles McKinley <cmckinley313 at cox.net>
> Subject: <VV> Weak brake action
> To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
> Message-ID: <E7A2653E-A92A-400A-A8B7-5FC259443C4E at cox.net>
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> 
> I'm a little embarrassed about asking this, as it seems like a moronic 
> question, but I'm at a loss as to where to go next. I've had a '63 
> Monza 900 for about 16 years now, and in all that time, the braking 
> action is what I'd call puny - maybe I've gotten used to the power 
> brakes in every other car I've owned for 40+ years, but it really 
> doesn't feel right. The symptoms are that when I apply the brakes, 
> they do work, but I have to apply more pressure than I think should be 
> necessary, and there's no such thing as a panic stop - I can't jam on 
> the brakes and screech to a halt (that's the most worrisome part.)
> 
> Recently I've done the following in an attempt to fix this:
> 
> - had all drums turned
> - put in all new brake shoes
> - put in all new wheel cylinders
> - put in new brake line hoses
> - installed new return springs
> 
> Long ago I rebuilt the master cylinder.
> 
> The brake pedal is very solid - no fading, solid stop with minimal 
> depression
> 
> I have a complete set of new brake lines, but when I learned you have 
> to drop the motor and remove the gas tank to install them, I decided 
> to hold off until I have a more compelling reason to do either of 
> those chores.
> 
> I've bled the master cylinder and the wheel cylinders until I'm blue 
> in the face, with no improvement.
> 
> The only items left in question (that I can think of) are:
> - master cylinder problem of some sort (can't think what)
> - old brake lines being a little plugged (although I get plenty of 
> flow when bleeding the wheel cylinders)
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Chuck McKinley
> 
> 
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