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[shortle]

My dad called me up in 1985 to let me know he finally bought what was for him his lifes dream car- a new Cadillac. Then I got to his house and saw a brand new Cadillac Cimmaron sitting in his driveway. At this time the car was 2 days old. Sitting on the front passenger seat was the glove box door. My dad at that time was a GM buyer to the end. He even bought a new late model Corvair. But it was the quality of the "Cadillac" (the glove box was just the beginning) that drove my dad away from GM for the rest of his life. Not just the car but the quality of the dealership level of service, especially when it came to warranty issues (there were many). My dad predicted the immenent failing of GM 20 years ago based on his own experience. And I remember him telling me "the Corvair was actually a very good car".
Timothy Shortle in Durango Colorado   

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>From: "gswiatowy at rochester.rr.com" <gswiatowy at rochester.rr.com>
>Sent: Apr 30, 2009 10:16 AM
>To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Subject: Re: <VV> (no subject)
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>Sure, may be anecdotal evidence.
>But when my grandfather and I went to pick up his new Corvette in 1978, we
>didn't want to accept it because the paint was so bad. Fit and finish? You
>could see where the individual fiberglass body panels came together. Power
>window came off the track before leaving the dealers lot, first time the
>window was rolled down.
>No Lemon law at that time, but that car ws one of the reasons a law like
>that had to be made. That car went back to the dealership for more time
>than it spent in his garage. Once Warranty was up, it fell to me to fix it.
>during the same period, I had a succession of GM "used cars" that were
>nothing but junk.
>went back to the Blue Oval, Mopar, and even AMC and did not have the
>problems I had with GM products. and all the time, I still had my Corvairs.
>
>My Uncle inherited that Corvette, and it is still junk and a money pit.
>I got my grandfather's 73 T-Bird that the dealer offered peanuts for at
>trade in time on the vette. T-Bird is still going strong............The
>Corvette even had the frame rot out........Constant brake problems, and
>leaked more fluids than any Corvair ever dreamed of.
>
>What I was trying to get across.........poor product, and lousy service,
>drives the customer base away. In my case, they lost a customer for life.
>Think that has not happened with others?
>
>Gary Swiatowy
>
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>From: Kenneth E Pepke <kenpepke at juno.com>
>Subject: Re: <VV> GM press release OMG!
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>Everyone has opinion but, admit it or not, most opinions are based
>on advertising.  The objective of advertising is to influence opinion
>and advertisement people know how to accomplish their goals.
>GM, and I assume Ford and Chrysler, cannot allow that to be the
>basis of their business decisions.  So, they have developed 
>sophisticated measuring equipment.  They can, and do, measure
>'fit and finish' and performance of all aspects of all makes of cars 
>from all over the world.  GM has finally accepted the reality of the
>importance of advertising and you will see how 'everyone' has
>been mistaken :-) in some of their latest commercials.
>
>The results are far and away more accurate than any opinion.
>The bottom line here is the fabled Japanese quality is gained
>far more from advertising than fact.  Bitter as the fact may be
>to some, GM cars _measure_ higher quality across the board.
>But, if you want to see the best in 'fit and finish' measurements
>take a look at a BMW!  
>
>Just about everyone has anecdotal evidence concerning a single
>given vehicle, or may be even a handful of vehicles.  But actual 
>measurements will tell the whole story and the simple fact is 
>'year for year GM vehicles _measure_ higher quality than the 
>Japanese imports.  Now if you want to say a 2005 Lexus is a
>better made car than a 1965 Corvair ...
>Ken P 
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