<VV> FOR SALE

[Bill Elliott]

The term "2 door sedan" is in more common use in the rest of the world, 
but because of the way American car companies marketed, they pretty much 
called all 2 doors "coupes" here, whether pillared or hardtopped. Same 
thing for 4 doors being sedans (of either variety). Whether a specific 
company marketed a specific car a particular way was more a matter of 
marketing preference than anything concrete. If Chevy marketers called 
the late model Corvair 4 door a "four door hardtop" or whatever, the 
general public still viewed it as a "sedan".  Whether technically 
correct or not (I think the correct technical term is "hardtop sedan" or 
"sports sedan"), that's the convention that is "reality" in the US.

Since it's just a marketing term, it really doesn't matter, but using 
the more technical (SAE) design definitions (which use interior volume 
to differentiate), the Corvair 2 door is actually a "2 door sedan" 
primarily  because of the full size rear seat... coupes are more 
typically  2+2's (or two seaters). Other conventions say that the 
existence of a B pillar signifies "sedan" and it's absence signifies 
"coupes".   So by that standard early 2 doors are 2 door sedans while 
lates are coupes...

But again, the reality is the late Corvair 2 door is simply a "coupe" 
because that's how it was marketed and accepted by the public...

Just like with politics, semantics don't alter the characteristics of 
anything and marketing terms are nothing more than a matter of fashion...

Bill

jvhroberts at aol.com wrote:

> I recall them calling the LM 4 door a 4 door hardtop. Was it called a sedan? 
>I've never heard a two door called a sedan...
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>From: Harry  Yarnell <hyarnell1 at earthlink.net>
>To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
>Sent: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 5:17 pm
>Subject: Re: <VV> FOR SALE
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>In America, a coupe is a two door, and a four door is a sedan. I think all 
>educated people agree on that...
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>Harry Yarnell
>Perryman garage and orphanage
>Perryman, MD
>hyarnell1 at earthlink.net
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>To: <Sethracer at aol.com>; <bernielivengood2001 at yahoo.com>; 
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>Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 3:23 PM
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>>Also, a '66 would be a 2door hardtop. There were no LM sedans.
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>>-Mark
>>'67 4door hardtop (2), and '67 convert
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>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: <Sethracer at aol.com>
>>>To: <bernielivengood2001 at yahoo.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>Date: 4/5/2009 2:44:42 PM
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> FOR SALE
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>>>In a message dated 4/5/2009 10:36:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>>bernielivengood2001 at yahoo.com writes:
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>>>For  Sale                       1964 monza 2dr sedan, 110, AT, gold, and
>>>1966 monza 2dr sedan, 110, AT, burgandy.  Call Bill@ cell# 765-592-2079
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>>>765-344-1979.    Bernie
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>>>Say, Bernie - Is that in or around Troy, Illinois?  Or, if  not, where?
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>>>Seth  Emerson
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