<VV> new subject? A/C questions
Mikeamauro at aol.com
Mikeamauro at aol.com
Tue Nov 18 23:41:18 EST 2008
"...has anyone converted an early a/c system to R134a? is it worth the
hassle?..."
For a while, before changing my A6 out for a Sanden SD7, I ran my late model
system converted to 134a; the system performed OK, but not as well as with
R-12. For this to work, at the least you'll need to change the compressor oil.
There are other concerns, and the following is a link to a Hemmings article
containing some useful info.
_http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2006/10/01/hmn_feature32.html_
(http://www.hemmings.com/hmn/stories/2006/10/01/hmn_feature32.html)
And another with more detail: _http://www.nichols.nu/tip306.htm_
(http://www.nichols.nu/tip306.htm)
Also, I can tell you (drawing from my trade experience and education as an
A/C contractor), if you really want your conversion to work the best it can:
1) change to barrier hoses with crimped connectors and 134a compatible O-Rings
(the old hoses, internally soaked with mineral oil, will leak a little refg.
through their walls (sorta' bad), but the OEM stainless clamp terminations
just won't cut it at all with 134a refrigerant (134a leaks easier, as it has a
much smaller molecule than does R-12); 2) 134a requires more condenser than
does R-12... hence, you'll either need to increase the size of the condenser,
or add an electric helper fan (or you'll develop little or no subcooling,
and cooling performance will be poor in hot weather and/or at idle). My
conversion dealt with a 67 coupe having the condenser across the back of the fire
wall; hence, I was able to add two fans (this add helped system performance
greatly, and was done in conjunction with change to the Sanden compressor and a
134a TXV; so, cannot comment on how just the fans would have helped with an
A6 still in place) . On an early, I don't know how you would handle the
condenser deficiency issue, and this may be a show stopper to getting an early
system to work REALLY well with 134a.
Mike Mauro
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