<VV> More on the eBay bum - "Caveat Seller" ?

[Charles Lee]

It seems PayPal subscribes to the same philosophy used in schools, and don't
want to hurt a buyer's feelings by denying their claim, and and just
summarily deduct it from the seller's account, making the seller fight to
get it back, which they be sure doesn't happen often enough for PayPal to
worry about that.

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe you have a right to the details of anything
they take from your account, since you were "damaged" and that person has a
"business presence" in your state by virtue of selling over the Internet. I
think the same may true of PayPal ?

I'd think that PayPal would have to eat the loss since it was PayPal that
allowed the fraud to take place, but again, I'm not a lawyer, but it sounds
like a class action suit is brewing ?

Anyone out there know if this will work, so a buyer can take action ?

I want to sell Corvair parts and things on eBay (though they are fewer and
further between lately), but if buyers can pay, then make a claim after they
receive it where PayPal can simply take the money back (after feedback has
been left), I'm not sure I want to take that chance.

Looks like "Caveat Seller" is the new paradigm ?




-----Original Message-----
From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
[mailto:virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org] On Behalf Of kaczmarek at charter.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 7:13 AM
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> More on the eBay bum

Friends
Since I handle the eBay online store for Steele Rubber, process the orders
and handle all the questions and problems that occur, allow me to interject
a few observations for the overall general welfare of the group. 

I project that by the middle of next year, my company will no longer have an
eBay online store. Going into eBay was an experiment that started not long
after I came to work for Steele, and we didn't know how it would work out.
At best I figured we'd make some money, and get another presence on the Web.


Just like the .com bubble, the housing bubble, and the auto auction bubble,
the eBay bubble is broken and we're on the downslope.  Never done better
than 4000.00 in sales on eBay, and that was the best month in 3 years.  In
comparison, I sold 2,972.30 in parts just yesterday, Monday of Christmas
week in a depressed economy.  Total eBay sales for dec to date is around
1700.00, and I'll probably do that before lunch today. 

 It's just not working out.

The whole PayPal thing is a PITA too.  And the comments that Alan has
related are by no means the exception.  Everybody's getting hosed, sellers
especially. 

All good things must come to an end, and eBay will likely be one of them.
It's not about cleaning out your basement or trading in collectibles
anymore....and it's not nearly the fun that it once was. 

Just a .02 from someone who deals with eBay every day. 

Hank 






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