<VV> Requirement of seat belts by CORSA for events / ShoulderBelts

[LonzoVair at aol.com]

Hey guys,
I believe 65 was the first year you "had" to get seatbelts, meaning no  
"seatbelt delete" option... they were optional all through the early 60s... even  
my 1961 Chevrolet Dealer Accessory Installation Manual has them  listed... my 
64 700 has some aftermarket belts installed, but it was a  "seatbelt delete" 
car according to the trim tag... all my Corvairs have  seatbelts, and I even 
have an aftermarket shoulder belt set up that I had in my  64 Greenbrier that I 
totaled back in '98... it has a teardrop shape mount that  attaches to the 
roof, and the belt attached to an eye bolt on the other side...  the other end has 
a metal "collar" that slips onto the male part of the belt  buckle before you 
stick it into the buckle piece.... slick design, and the only  one I've ever 
seen... so auto retractors, either.... all "pull & cinch"... I  originally got 
it from someone here on VV, had to be sometime between 95 &  98...
I rarely ever drive without the seatbelt... 
A few years back, when KY enacted their seatbelt law, I was driving a 65  
Monza I had... there was a cop in front of me at the stop light and he took it  
upon himself to grab his PA mic and say "would the man behind me in the green  
car please wear his seatbelt."... I shouted out the window that I was buckled  
up, but he sat there through the green light (I think his window was up)... 
and  he said "Sir, buckle up"... at which point I took both hands off the 
wheel, made  a hand gesture of two fingers going into the other hand while it was 
cupped  (mimicking a seat belt, of course) and then pointed at my lap.... to 
which he  turned his lights on, got out of his car and walked back to mine... 
"What  was THAT all about???" I said "Officer, I HAVE my seatbelt ON (pointing  
again to my lap). This car only came with LAP BELTS, and KY LAW says I really  
don't have to USE them in a car that is older than 1978, and since this is a 
'65  you couldn't write me a ticket if I DIDN'T have it on (and I handed him a 
 copy of the law that I keep in the glove box for just such an occasion)... 
so  would you please let me go on my way?"
He said "Just doing my job..."... I stuck my hand out and said "Thank  you... 
I appreciate that."... and he smiled, said "Nice car by the way"... and  
after that I saw him all the time... even bought him lunch once before we moved  
down here to White Mills... he was a really nice guy.
My kids will NOT ride in a car without seatbelts, and they're 18 and 15...  
in fact Sarah is all excited about her "new" 1982 F150 pick up she bought from  
the neighbor... she used her graduation money for that and tires... not bad 
for  a first car... and she can help haul firewood!
:-)
I can see no bad points to seatbelt addition to any car/truck (I even had  
them in my 1950 Buick Roadmaster 20 years ago)... as long as they're installed  
correctly, I think it's a grand idea... to require them in moving activities,  
sure... the only possible problem could be there might be a "stock" kind of 
guy  who would get upset if his unrestored original car WITH seatbelts wasn't 
given  preference over a similar car with added on seatbelts, but I think that 
would be  a small problem to deal with IF it ever came up.
Well, it's bedtime for Lonzo....
Good night folks!
 
 
Lon  Anderson
White Mills, KY
CORSA, Derby City Corvair, Corvanatics
1961  Greenbrier 110/pg
1963 Greenbrier 95/4spd
1964 700  95/pg





In a message dated 8/18/2008 12:34:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
PatioMatt at aol.com writes:




In a message dated 8/17/2008 9:26:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight  Time,  
dave.thompson at verizon.net writes:

As for shoulder  belts, I have an early convertible. There is no  attachment
point that  will allow the shoulder harness to be at the proper  angle to  not
compress the spine on an impact. A roll bar would give me one  but  I don't
want to install one in my street  car.


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Didn't  someone just post the CORSA  Concours rule... no points  deduction  
for 
aftermarket belts?


Dave, and others with the same  feeling...

Would you LIKE to have shoulder belts that MIGHT HELP? [  key  "liability" 
word]


Matt  Nall
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