<VV> valve lifters
BobHelt at aol.com
BobHelt at aol.com
Sat Aug 2 18:18:37 EDT 2008
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:08:46 -0600 Dennis PLEAU <ddpleau at msn.com> writes:
> One of my friends who is a well known Corvair mechanic once told me,
> he tightened the valves on his cars and his performance customers at
> 1/4 turn past zero lash. Non performance customers got 1/2 turn as
> they complain about the noise until the engine gets warm. You pick
> your driving style, you pick your prelload.
Hydraulic lifters have an internal piston that self adjusts itself so as to
maintain zero valve train clearance. All Corvair and SBC lifters have at least
0.125 in. movement of this piston which translates into at least two full
turns of the valve adjustment nut. So the adjustment can be set anywhere from
zero lash to one full turn in and still be fairly good. It takes more than
two turns to bottom the piston which results in a bad adjustment.
The reason one might want to pick one adj setting over another is strictly
to avoid the effects of lifter pump up. Lifter pumpup occurs mostly at high
engine speeds when the lifter is unable to follow the lobe profile due either to
a poor lobe design, over revving, or weak valve springs. What happens is
that as the lifter is raising the valve and reaches the top of the lobe, inertia
lofts the lifter above the lobe peak (floating the valves). When this
happens the internal piston tends to rise to take up the slack in the valve train.
Then, when the valve does close the internal piston is too high in the lifter
and tends to keep the valve from seating properly until the piston returns
to its previous position. By setting the adjustment nearer to the zero lash
point the amount of pumpup is limited since at zero lash the internal piston is
already at the top of its travel. So that is probably the only reason one
might want to set the adjustment nearer to zero lash. Otherwise the amount of
adjustment is totally irrevelvant as long as it doesn't bottom the piston or
cause valve train noise due to the expansion/contraction of the engine and
valve train. (That's why making the adjustment at 1/4 turn or making it at one
full turn makes no difference in normal engine performance.)
There is a designed-in balance between the oil pressure pushing the internal
piston up into the top of the lifter and the valve spring pressure trying to
keep the valve closed and seated pushing back on the internal piston. If
either of these two pressures is too strong or too weak the other will overcome
it and cause valve performance problems. So it is wise to check the oil
pressures at all engine speeds to see that they are within specs and similarly
check for weak or improperly set valve springs. Weak or improperly set valve
springs are a hidden "gotcha" since they are seldom suspect when problems occur
and they are hard to check/verify as being good. But they do cause valve
train problems.
Regards,
Bob Helt
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