<VV> Ethanol in Corvairs

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-----Original Message-----
From: levair at aol.com
To: eprosise at hotmail.com
Sent: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: <VV> Ethanol in Corvairs


I have found a use for E 85 in my Thomas/Roe car.
I've been injecting it instead of water a  turbo anti denatonate.

Warren


-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Prosise <eprosise at hotmail.com>
To: frankcb at aol.com; ronh at owt.com; virtualvairs at corvair.org
Sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:16 pm
Subject: RE: <VV> Ethanol in Corvairs




ran is planning on presenting a tech session at the 2010 convention in Iowa.  I 
now that he has larger jets, and different gaskets in the carbs.  His tank is 
ined, by a local shop, I think, and I know he has an oxygen sensor, and 
onitors that...

 cant speak to everything, but in his daily driver67 4 door (driven every day), 
e gets about 26mpg and runs E85.

ric

rom: FrankCB at aol.comDate: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:00:22 -0400Subject: Re: <VV> 
thanol in CorvairsTo: ronh at owt.com; eprosise at hotmail.com; virtualvairs at corvair.org

on and Eric,
   Since E-85 has only about 70% of the energy (per gallon) as regular 
asoline, it's hard to believe that "little modification to the stock set-up is 
ufficient" and "good fuel mileage" results.  Also E-85 vehicles require 
onsiderable mods as far as materials are concerned.  That high a % of ethanol 
ill attack the coating on the stock LM Corvair fuel tank, for example.  Flex 
uel vehicles (from GM and others) now on the roads have lots of changes from 
asoline only vehicles.  One, of course, is a sensor that analyzes the fuel 
lowing to the engine and adjusts the A/F ratio depending on whether straight 
asoline or E-85 is flowing or ANYTHING between those two extremes.  This is 
ecessary since it takes a LARGER flow of E-85 to make the same power as 
asoline.  So it's hard to understand how switching to E-85 will NOT produce 
ORSE fuel mileage than regular gasoline.  Of course, you could significantly 
aise the compression ratio to take advantage of the much higher octane rating 
f the E-85.  Or, you could allow your turbo to make higher boost pressure with 
he higher octane E-85.
   But I don't see that these changes are "minor" ones from stock.
   Frank "prefers to pay our farmers than terrorist nations" Burkhard  

n a message dated 10/15/2007 9:18:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ronh at owt.com 
rites:
et's see an article on what he did.  Do the stock hoses in the fuel system hold 
p OK?RonH----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Prosise" <eprosise at hotmail.com>To: 
virtualvairs at corvair.org>Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 6:14 PMSubject: <VV> 
thanol in Corvairs>> All->> Fran Schmitt in Minnesota (St. Louis Park) is 
unning E-85 (85% ethanol) > in both his '67 4-door (110hp, automatic), and '64 
onvertible (95hp? > auto, with A/C).  I dont know about his 140hp Rampside, but 
ossibly.  He > reports good fuel mileage, and little modification to the stock 
et-up.>> Eric Prosise> Corvair Minnesota
 

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