In a message dated 10/18/2007 8:17:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, shaun_mcgarvey at shaw.ca writes: Didn't that van win the Cole award at the Portland convention? yea, Vairily ... Shaun - Nope. It wasn't even there Tim Abney Inland Empire Corvair Club ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com