<VV> 60 Corvair Scam on e-bay

[Kenneth N. Wildman]

I saw a really nice 1961 Chrysler 300G offered at the bargain price of just
$7600 (does that number ring a bell?) yesterday and the request to make
inquiries by email....

Wouldn't it be nice if you could actually buy a $50,000+ car for less than
$10K?

Ken 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: virtualvairs-bounces at corvair.org
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> On Behalf Of Ken Maxwell
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:04 AM
> To: Virtual Vairs
> Subject: <VV> 60 Corvair Scam on e-bay
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, this listing is one of many scams that a ring of scumbags have been
> running on e-bay for some time now. I became aware of it when my ad for a
69
> convertible was suddenly listed by another e-bayer who had no idea what
was
> going on. I reported the fraud to e-bay and they removed it, only to have
it
> reappear minutes later and I had it removed again. This thief really made
me
> mad so I started checking all e-bay collector car listings several times a
> day and reporting all of the hundreds of different fake ads that these
> deviates list.
> 
> 
> 
> This is how it works: they use real e-bay user ID's whose passwords they
get
> with fake e-bay log-in screens where you must type in your user name and
> password. They listed an "ID gathering" series of ads two days ago. They
> listed over 30 ads in collector cars with a scantily clad babe in the
> picture. When you went to view the ad it said "click here for more
pictures"
> the fake e-bay log-in box came up. Any one who filled in their user name
and
> password had just given up control of their account to the scammers. Now
> armed with hundreds of fresh new e-bay accounts these creeps have
inundated
> e-bay the past 24 hours with literally hundreds and hundreds of these fake
> ads. They all list nice pictures real cars that have previously been
listed
> by e-bayers and they all say to contact a separate e-mail address rather
> than use the official e-bay "ask seller a question" link. If you use the
> e-bay link, a confused fellow e-bayer won't know what you're talking about
> because he didn't place the ad.
> 
> 
> 
>  I acted as an interested buyer and the "seller" said he had moved out of
> country and couldn't take the car with him. He gives a fake unverifiable
> location of the vehicle and then says the car can't be examined for
> "privacy" reasons. He gives all sorts of guarantees that if the car is not
a
> described all funds will be refunded, but you can rest assured that any
> money sent to these crooks will never be seen again. E-bay's policy is
that
> they do not monitor their ads but that they will take actions when frauds
> are reported. That is why I have reported well over 1,000 of these fake
ads
> in the last two weeks. I told e-bay that they should be much more
proactive
> if they expect there users to have any kind of confidence in their site.
> 
> 
> 
> We are lucky that Corvairs generally aren't used much in these fakes
simply
> because they aren't valuable enough to be worthwhile to the scammers. They
> tend to concentrate on high value cars such as Cobras, Camaros, Mustangs
and
> Hot Rods of various types. I reported the fake '60 Corvair ad in question
> yesterday evening and they are very slow in removing it for some reason.
> Apparently ads with bids (even one with ridiculous amounts) are harder to
> remove.
> 
> 
> 
> I have informed e-bay that I will no longer use their service to buy or
sell
> a car until they have cleaned their site of these frauds. They will have
the
> realize that they're going to have to hire extra full-time help to monitor
> their site and remove these fakes rather than rely on fellow e-bayers to
> report these scams.
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry for the length of this post but these scumbags really make me mad
and
> I hope that they get the jail time they deserve!
> 
> 
> 
> Ken Maxwell
> 
> Louisville, KY
> 
> 69 Convertible #3721
> 
> 60 500 # 4961
> 
> 
> 
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