<VV> RE: End of the line for Corvair Axle Plant-NO CORVAIR

[Roger Gault]

When did "profit", the driving force behind the world's most successful
economy, the world's finest technology, the world's highest productivity and
world's highest standard of living for its people become a dirty word?  Must
have been about the time we became the "owe me" nation.  Some people watch
too many Hollywood anti-business movies (none of which, I'm sure, made a
profit <smirk>).

Roger Gault
Down here in non-union Texas where millions are leaving everything they have
and flooding across the border to get into this hell-hole of a country to be
abused by evil, greedy businessmen.

Sorry, had all the crap I could take.  I will now go back to sleep.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LastHamlet" <lasthamlet at yahoo.com>
To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:24 AM
Subject: <VV> RE: End of the line for Corvair Axle Plant


> John,
> Those are some valids points you made, however(And,
> there seems to always be a HOWEVER), this really isn't
> so much the typical "Flat Earth" topic, but merely
> "Greed" in the multi-level aspect, that is. Or, that
> we as humans are getting Flat Heads, from lack of
> thinking?
> Hummm "went away"??? well, also for the most part,
> true, but not really the correct term... More like
> "Replaced", you know similar to the Terminator Movies.
> We build machines to replace workers(other human
> beings BTW), and for the most part not to be
> technologically advanced, but for, well, say it with
> me,,, "Bigger Profits". Of course, there is the
> underlying factors, we are getting lazy, us humans
> that is.
> Sure, I also have to agree, buggy makers were a bit
> bent when Henry Ford came along. However,(Again with
> these Howevers) he did manage to created not only a
> butt-load of jobs, but a good ethical concept for a
> business model, as well... "I want to make a car that
> everybody can afford." Not only that, H.Ford had some
> really positive underlying factors, he powered his
> cars from Methanol, he processed from Hemp. He was a
> firm believer in Petro-fuels, and far ahead of his
> time...(Popular Mechanic's from the mid 1920's to late
> 1930's issues, go to their online site and read his
> views for yourself)
> Nonetheless, it all seems to come down to Progress and
> of course, the bottom line, "Profit". Nobody wants, or
> should have to, work for nothing, as well as the
> business owner included, as they are human too.
> However, (Goodness, Again with the however) with the
> "Save 3 cents" mindset/concept I mentioned, it seems
> we go beyond what "Human" means, as to equate to lines
> on a page.
> Progress is good, but still we must draw the line
> somewhere,,,, somewhere??? Where that line is, I do
> not know. I do know, that each Country, each place,
> must do a lot to clean up their own back yard.(No
> place excluded) Furthermore, to continue to say, stop
> looking at other Nations and their people, as ways to
> further swell the pockets of somebody not having the
> common sense to say "Enough is Enough". Or, even as a
> counterpoint to other perspectives, "We screwed up
> this place here, lets book on over there and see what
> we can mess up there." Both ideas, in my opinion, are
> just promoting ignorance of the real issues... Grab a
> broom and a paintbrush, as nobody is your slave, and
> you deeds in life, are your deeds.
> Now, true, I am not your sharpest knife in the drawer,
> but this issue is not as complicated as we make it,,,
> is it???
> Well, this is close to breaking rules of the
> board,(Maybe considered political) so I better
> respectfully sign off, before ruffling too many
> feathers... Besides, I have driveled enough :-)
> All The Best Regards,
> Danny Barber
> "When they came for me..."
> ____________________________________________________
> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>
> I was going to stay out of what I consider to be a
> "Flat-Earth"
> argument....but this particular note required a
> response.  Did it ever occur
> to those hand-wringers that the jobs in question
> didn't "move"....but simply
> went away.....like the Dodo?
>
> Anyone that wants to see first-hand why US auto makers
> are closing
> plants.....arrange a tour of Daimler-Chrysler's newest
> assembly plant---the
> Toledo-Stickney Ave. Jeep Plant!  This facility makes
> THREE, count'um, 3
> totally different cars in the same plant, on a single
> line!  Not just
> different sheet-metal, three totally different
> platforms!  There isn't a
> fixed jig in the entire plant......just robots that
> hold the panels for the
> selected vehicle in the appropriate orientation while
> another group of
> robots weld it together!  Change the
> software....change the car the plant
> builds....it's just that simple!  No need for a
> completely different plant
> to produce a single model-line.....and the workers to
> go with it!
>
> We are on the leading edge of "boutique"
> manufacturing, where a single
> facility can manufacture a multitude of items using
> the same tools and
> equipment, just by creating different software (use a
> CNC Mill as an example
> and expand it).
>
> Remember....buggy-makers bitched about Henry Ford too!
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
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