<VV> Nearly (possibly) FINAL Results! (Longish-JB and others might wish to delte now)

J R Read_HML hmlinc at sbcglobal.net
Fri Jan 12 02:14:00 EST 2007


Whew...!  Well - as promised - it is after midnight.  Oh, it was supposed to 
be yesterday.  Hey, what do you want from volunteer help?

There were 3 or 4 who sent the info privately.  I think that happened after 
a complaint or two hit the open forum.  My "message rules" are set to send 
anything with "<VV>" in the subject line to a specific folder.  This is to 
keep the VV stuff away from the other 30 - 40 emails per day.  So, I've not 
yet taken the time to go search those out (no VV in subject line) for this 
report.  If I get around to it, I'll update these counts - but I don't 
recall anything that would make a significant difference to this report.

ANYWAY...

The original post that got me into all this trouble was:

PASTE....

Has anyone done a survey to find out the average amount of Corvairs owned by
CORSA members.  Not that it would be important, just sort of interesting.

Maybe 2 categories - not early and late - drivable and nondriveable.


END PASTE

With that post, I was hopeful that someone ELSE would step up and collect 
the "data".  That did not happen, so it became a matter of "put your $$ 
where your mouth is" under my particular morality code.

Let me say that not everyone followed the "guidelines" as set out in that 
post (SURPRISE - NOT).  It started out OK, but then the distinction between 
drivable and not started to blur.  Words like "stashed" or "stored" did not 
tell me anything about drivablity (this only applies to a very few and I 
worked around it so don't get your nose out of joint) - so the numbers you 
will see here are TOTALS of all (currently) owned Corvairs reported by VV 
members.  My best guess - impression is a better word (I did NOT count) that 
something in the neighborhood of 10 to 15% (closer to 10 I think) of those 
reported (included in the counts) will NEVER see the road again.  These are 
(sometimes admitted and sometimes not) PARTS cars.

Also, I had no (realistic) way to distinguish CORSA members from non-CORSA 
members, so the figures will be based on VV members who reported VS CORSA 
members who reported.  If there is anyone out there who did not provide 
counts because of the "CORSA" requirement, send a private email under the 
topic of "how many" and I will update for those.

While I still have your attention - because you are waiting for the #s to 
show up, I'd like to note a couple/three (Chicago term) more things.

I counted anything that moves on land (including sand) as a Corvair.  This 
includes Corvair BODIED - regardless of power plant, Corvair POWERED, 
regardless of body.  I did not count Corvair powered boats or planes.  There 
was one boat - no planes.  These "non-standard" Vairs were probably around 
2% to 3% of the total (estimate - again, not counted).

I did NOT count Vairs which were reported as owned at some past time - only 
those reported as being in the current stable.

Something I noted which I thought surprising (significant?) was that a 
number of folks (even though not asked for) listed "others" and that an 
estimated 35 to 40% of those folks had at least one MoPar in their list. 
MANY reported other GMs.

There were a FEW (around Chicago - that means at least 3 or maybe more, but 
probably not more than 7, which would be several) who had counts near the 
dozen mark (some over and some under).  I'm NOT naming anyone here - so 
you'll have to go read the emails (or archives) if you want to figure that 
out.

So... Here we go....

The highest count was 36.  The closest challenger to that (two of them) was 
17.

There were 31 folks who reported owning ONE Corvair.  Oh... total count of 
VV responders is 91.  So, if you feel like doing some calcs - there is your 
base point, subject to some possible minor future adjustment.

Total VV Responders:  91
Total Vairs (currently) owned: 348.5

I have 1 on my list (not included above) which I can't verify at this time. 
It may have come from a private email.  But that would not make a 
significant difference in any calculations you might wish to perform on 
these numbers.  It would add one owner with one Corvair.

Later, JR
In deference to the "name - location" thread:
CCE and CORSA member
'61 Rampside Standard 4/110
'65 Monza Convertible 4/140
'66 beater Coupe - "icemobile" 4/140



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