<VV> salt on the roads

[J R Read_HML]

In Chicago... that department is Streets and Sanitation.  The same 
department that spreads the salt fixes the roads.  Being that this is 
Chicago, there is always the STRONG underlying "make work" aspect.  Streets 
and San has had more than one investigation - firing - etc.  The most recent 
involving the "hired truck" scandal.

But, I'll tell you this - after Bilandic lost and election to Jane Burn over 
snow removal, the streets get clean in a hurry.  Daley is in re-election 
mode at this time and will exceed his fathers tenure when (I did not say IF) 
re-elected.

OK, I let this turn political.  I'll shut up on the topic.

Later, JR

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "airvair" <airvair at richnet.net>
To: "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "richard white" <sarge9444 at yahoo.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> salt on the roads


> You missed the point. It DOES have something to do with price, in fact,
> everything. As far as the government is concerned, they buy the salt
> because that department has to go with the cheap stuff (salt).
> Meanwhile, road repairs are handled by another department, and they
> can't force the salt-spreading department to use the more expensive
> stuff so that road repair won't cost as much. Everybody's looking out
> for only his own department's expenses. And at the state level, nobody
> has figured out that the two department's pockets are in the same pair
> of pants.
>
> I agree the spreading ice-melting stuff is essential in order to keep
> the economy going. But my point is that everyone is only looking out for
> their own "department" and NOT the big picture, ALL of which is
> ultimately paid by *guess who* the taxpayer.
>
> -Mark
>
> J R Read_HML wrote:
>>
>> If you don't salt the roads in the SIX county metro area around Chicago, 
>> you
>> will bring a gigantic economic machine to a virtual stand still.  I'm 
>> sure
>> that is true of many other major cities.
>>
>> If it had anything to do with the price of salt, they'd use something 
>> more
>> expensive if it could/would keep the roads from turning into pot holes 
>> each
>> spring.  Fixing the roads is the expense and inconveinence.
>>
>> Later, JR
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "airvair" <airvair at richnet.net>
>> To: "richard white" <sarge9444 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 10:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: <VV> salt on the roads
>>
>> > The problem is simply economics. A number of years ago, I read an
>> > article that stated that salt costs (to buy) about one to two cents per
>> > pound. Yet it causes 80 cents of damage to cars, bridges, roads, ground
>> > water, environment, etc., none of which the salt purchaser has to pay
>> > for dirctly. Environmentally safe salt substitute costs at least as 
>> > much
>> > as 24 cents per pound, and is therfore too expensive for the road
>> > departments to consider. The public hasn't figured out that the pocket
>> > the road departments have and the pockets that pay for all the damages
>> > is in the same pair of pants (the public taxpayers.)
>> >
>> > -Mark
>> >
>> > richard white wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not that I know any thing but couldn't all this salt
>> >> be contributing to a degradation of the soil? It has
>> >> to run off too somewhere. You would think the tree
>> >> huggers would jump on something like this. Perhaps in
>> >> advertently saving our cars.
>> >> Rich
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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