<VV> Re: brake lights 61 Rampie

[Frank DuVal]

OK, here is what was not on VV:

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I had pulled the steering wheel down to where I was ready to pull it 
last night but did not have a puller.  Good thing as the horn mechanism 
and plates were all badly rusted and will need to be cleaned up.  The 
horn tries to blow if I ground the switch so I guess that is the next 
project after the lights.

I really appreciate the in depth instructions as a buddy of mine has my 
61 shop manual.  Tomorrow when I get home I will pull the switch out and 
take a look at it.  I will probably take it apart and see if it is an 
issue and if so can it be saved.  Nice to know that if it can't or I 
destroy it somehow that I can order another one.  When you say tricky do 
you mean little springs flying out all over ? Made the mistake of taking 
a washing machine timer apart once, never knew they had so many springs 
in one little housing <g>.  Will let you know what I find, thanks again

Rex




Three springs IIRC. One under each of three contacts. Just bend tabs to 
get plastic part off the metal housing. Separate slowly to release 
spring pressure. Springs are small, not much pressure. I use wheel 
bearing grease, white litium also good. Just a smear, don't pack! ggg


<SNIP>

Everything else was posted on VV. The problem was no brake lights or 
signal lights on a 61 rampside. He fixed it with taking the signal 
switch apart , cleaning & lubricating it.

Here it is again:

 <SNIP>

The turn signal switch is mounted on the side of the steering column. No 
need to remove the wheel.

Make sure the connector is plugged in. Also check the fuses, but you 
said you had 12 volts on the brake switch, so they should be OK. The 
switch mounts with two small 5/16" hex screws. And the small cable that 
goes into the steering wheel bowl is gripped by a simple flat metal 
spring that alows adjustment and removal at the switch.

The switch can be taken apart to clean & lubricate, but it is tricky. 
New ones are available from vendors. Get a copy of the wiring diagram to 
see what wires should get 12 volts when the switch is centered and the 
brake is depressed. IIRC it is the light and dark green wires, but what 
do I recall! ggg

Not much as I see from the 61 shop manual.

The white 20 ga wire brings in the 12 volts from the brake switch. The 
left rear stop lamp is the 20 ga pink wire. The right rear stop lamp is 
the 20 ga purple wire. The 20 ga yellow wire brings in 12 volts with the 
key on to operate the turn signal system, it is switched (flashed) by 
the flasher.

Frank DuVal

rchivers at tampabay.rr.com wrote:

Alas no they do not, I guess I will be making a foray into the steering 
column next ...
Anything in particular I should be aware of, never had a steering wheel 
off before

Thanks
 -R-

----- Original Message -----
From: Frank DuVal <corvairduval at cox.net>
Date: Thursday, February 15, 2007 8:37 am
Subject: Re: <VV> 61 Rampie - Brake lights
To: Rex Chivers <rchivers at tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: virtualvairs at corvair.org

 

Do the turn signals work correctly? The brake light switch feeds through 
the turn signal switch to light the rear bulbs.

Frank DuVal

Rex Chivers wrote:

  

> First thanks to all who responded to my questions about     

replacing the   

> tail light sockets.  I was able to pick up two replacements from     

the   

> local flaps and install them in place of the old ones.  Good     

news is   

> that I now have tail lights on both sides, bad news is there are     

no   

> brake lights.
>
>     I did verify that the sockets and tail lights both worked properly 
> by hooking each lead to the battery and grounding the housing.  I have 
> removed the brake light switch and verified     

that it   

> is getting 12 volts, and that is working properly, and fuses are     

ok.    
Where do I go next ?

TIA
Rex
65 Monza Vert
61 Rampie (almost on the road)


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Frank DuVal

J R Read_HML wrote:

> So...   What was the SPECIFIC problem/solution?
>
> Later, JR
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex Chivers" 
> <rchivers at tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 8:01 PM
> Subject: <VV> Re: brake lights 61 Rampie
>
>
>> Thanks to all who contributed information and ideas to the brake 
>> light question.  Special thanks to Frank Duval For his detailed 
>> information and encouragement.  I was able to remove the turn signal 
>> switch, disassemble it, clean it, reassemble and replace it.  What's 
>> even better is that I now have break lights.
>>
>> Thanks again to all for the help and knowledge sharing !!
>>  -Rex-
>> 65 Monza Vert
>> 61 Rampside (with brake lights)
>>
>