<VV> Not really enjoying VV anymore? Vair technical content!

Chris C ricorvair at cox.net
Tue Apr 17 15:36:08 EDT 2007


No but thanks for jinxing me.

Would a dual MC have helped???  I put one in the wifes 63 a few years 
back, cause it sounded like a good idea.


Tony Underwood wrote:
> At 11:25 AM 4/17/2007, Ken Wildman wrote:
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>>> Let's talk about Corvairs instead.
>>
>>
>> Big thumbs up!
>> Ken
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> Good point.    Here's to it.
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> Speaking of which:
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> I almost bought a Geo Storm this morning.    I didn't.    But almost.
>
>
> The kid missed the school bus because it was EARLY so I took her to 
> school.    Of course she remained somewhat tentative, as regards being 
> seen exiting from my '60 4-door 700 as I pull up to the door at 
> William Byrd  high school...     status and such, bad juju to be seen 
> getting out of an ugly car.
>
> On the way to work, going down a hill, approaching the light with 
> traffic etc I stepped on the brake pedal as I am wont to do when I 
> wish to stop the car and it didn't stop.   Pedal squished to the floor.
>
> Pumppumppump, no joy, just squishes.   The back bumper of that Geo 
> Storm was rapidly approaching.    I pulled the e-brake handle (while 
> remembering the last resort of flipping it into R) and the handle came 
> almost ALL the way up before meeting any resistance...  but it finally 
> did and the driver side rear wheel locked up and *Screamed* the whole 
> way as the car finally stopped about 3 feet from the Storm's rear 
> bumper as I continued pumping the pedal, again no joy.
>
> Of course everybody was looking...  made a pretty obvious impression, 
> what with the 4-door's current appearance etc.
>
>
> I pulled off to the side into a lot, dealing with the e-brake handle 
> to stop the car.    Checked brake fluid levels, poured a BUNCH into 
> the master cylinder, got back in, squish to the floor again.     So, I 
> squished a few more times, then walked around looking for the leak.    
> Found it at the right rear wheel...
>
> ??  New brake lines all over the car, recent brake job, including 
> wheel cylinder rebuilds.    But it was leaking at the right rear... in 
> fact brake fluid was all over the entire back side of the tire.    
> Soaked.
>
> I limped back to the house, making good use of the e-brake while also 
> noticing a scraping noise from the back.   Jacked up, pulled the tire 
> off, brake fluid everywhere, draining off the tire.    Pulled the drum 
> off after an argument with it because it acted stuck.
>
>
> One shoe had no lining on it, trailing shoe, completely bald.   The 
> lining was crumpled up and distributed around inside the drum/backing 
> plate, and the wheel cylinder cup and piston to the  rear, the side 
> that presses the trailing shoe, had popped out of the wheel 
> cylinder.    One of the brake lining chunks had stuffed itself against 
> the bald shoe and had stuck it "open" where it was grinding bigtime 
> against the drum.
>
>
> I pressure washed it all, rebuilt the wheel cylinder, replaced the 
> shoes, found a fresh drum, put it all back and all is well.    Brakes 
> are back to like they were before the surprise adrenaline rush this 
> morning.
>
>
> ONCE before about 15 years ago I saw a brake shoe that had parted 
> company with its lining, but that was something on a car that had been 
> sitting a very long time, went to redo brakes and the lining fell out 
> of the drum when it was removed, left the bare shoe in place etc.   
> Just fell out, intact and complete, looked like it would work fine if 
> it was just glued back on the shoe.    Never saw one do it before... 
> now I've seen two.
>
> *This* lost lining on the '60 came off a shoe that was part of the 
> brake overhaul the car got about two years ago and it was parked for 
> the winter last year (well, in the Fall of 2005).      Not more than 
> about 9000 miles on them, tops.    Chinese brake shoes or 
> something...?  Or just a fluke?    Anyway, it's back together and 
> doing well again.
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> Anyone else have a shoe shed its lining?    A relatively fresh shoe 
> and not something 20+ years old?
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>
> tony..     




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