<VV> Vert on e-Bay

Wed Apr 4 02:19:57 EDT 2007

Also the accounts that are hacked are probably scouted for low traffic, so 
it's less likely the real account owner will answer email quickly, giving 
them time to get in and out (with your money) before they are discovered by 
the real seller (or handbags and wicker) !

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Underwood" <tonyu at roava.net>
To: <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Vert on e-Bay

> At 06:28 AM 4/3/2007, Jim Houston wrote:
>>I just looked at the ad, and checked seller's other listings and 
>>discovered that ALL of the seller's items (lots of "classic" cars) have 
>>been removed by PayPal.(including the Corvair in question) . . .
>
>
> Once again a "seller" (usually with a hijacked Ebay account) posts various 
> photos of someone else's car with stipulations in the description, usually 
> to e-mail him FIRST before bidding whereupon he offers the car to you, 
> cheap, for money up front.   Smoking deal, with a deposit to "hold" the 
> vehicle sent via bank draft or funds transfer etc. until you can show up 
> to take possession.   That's the last you ever hear of the guy or the car 
> or anything else... and by the time you contact the *real* owner of the 
> Ebay account to complain, the hijacker is long gone with your money and 
> about a dozen or so other people's money as well, leaving nothing but a 
> closed account behind him.
>
>
> Why do you suppose there are all those bogus "Please resubmit your logon 
> information or your account may be suspended" etc ad nauseam Ebay e-mails 
> floating in and out of everyone's IN box anymore...?
>
> Next time you see a batch of cars advertised for sale like that, cheap... 
> too cheap... look at the seller's other auction items.    Usually dinner 
> ware, wicker furniture, baseball cards, knitted sock puppets, dinner 
> dresses, fuzzy bedroom slippers, whatever... it's never cars or associated 
> items.    It's usually stuff sold on EBay by little old ladies or 
> hobbyists/collectors who are trusting people that never would think that 
> anyone would wanna steal their EBay account.
>
>
>>something strange there as well.  It looks like the guy just posts ads 
>>with pictures for kicks.
>
>
> Hardly.   He expects to collect bucks.   Especially telling is the old 
> excuse that something is wrong with the posted seller's e-mail account 
> (which still links to the original account owner's personal e-mail) so a 
> prospective buyer is NOT to e-mail that address, instead he must e-mail 
> the seller via a "throwaway" web mail address usually at Hotmail or Yahoo 
> etc.  which can be acquired and set up anonymously with no way to trace 
> who actually set it up.
>
>
>>I wouldn't think that anybody could have that big a collection of old cars 
>>and be selling for the prices he has listed...  quien sabe?
>
>
> Oh, the cars exist...  they're not his, however, and they likely could be 
> found the previous month on Ebay in someone else's auction.    It's the 
> same old story about if it seems too good to be true...  ;)
>
>
> A few months ago, somebody was selling a mint condition '70 Barracuda 
> convertible with the 440 6-Pak engine option for 6500 bucks if you used 
> the "buy it now" option.    A click on the seller's other items included, 
> among about 9 different cars, a Cougar Eliminator and a Shelby Mustang 
> GT-500, each also with a buy-it-now price of 6500 bucks...  IF you 
> contacted him via e-mail to arrange the sale and discuss "details".
>
>
> Oh boy what a bargain.
>
>
> I'm all the time getting bogus Ebay "questions" from "buyers" and 
> "sellers" who want to know why I've not sent them their item... or they 
> wanna buy something I have listed...  never sold anything on Ebay, always 
> been exclusively a buyer...  and of course the fake Ebay letterhead has a 
> link to click to "logon" to what you think is your Ebay account.
>
> My e-mail handler picks up these bogus links and flashes an alert even if 
> I DON'T spot the bogus link first.
>
>
> I like to go "logon" to these links and include a user "name" and 
> "password" that signifies my opinion of them...  about a dozen or so 
> times.
>
> Then I go to an Ebay link and e-mail the details to them.
>
>
>
> tony..
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