<VV> Re: Fender blending - Corvair back in the loop (welded "fenders")

[Norm Witte]

I think it was necessary to weld the front quarters in place in order to have a trunk that seals.

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From: "Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per" <chaz at ProperProPer.com> 

> I don't think that was the argument, whether fenders are quarter panels, or 
> the other way around. 
> 
> I think the discussion centered on when fenders became fenders, not 
> semantically, but stylistically, i.e.: when did the "fender" become 
> integrated into the body's lines ? 
> 
> Inarguably, the Corvair never had "fenders" per se, since the "quarter 
> panels" are (very nicely) blended into the car's lines. 
> 
> The part I don't like, not part of this thread actually, is that GM (?) 
> decided to weld the Corvair's front quarter panels (it would be so much 
> easier to have said "fenders" but I won't) into the unibody design. 
> 
> I believe that the welded front panels (all of them) contributed to the high 
> cost of repairing front end damage, and hence the demise of many Corvairs. 
> 
> In my opinion, of course... 
> 
> Chaz 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Norman C. Witte" 
> To: "'Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per'" ; 
> 
> Cc: "'Virtual Vairs'" 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:05 PM 
> Subject: RE: Re: Fender blending - no Corvair 
> 
> 
> > Ok, this horse was probably dead long ago, but in my book a quarterpanel 
> > is 
> > part of the body itself, while a fender is a bolt-on part. By that 
> > definition, Corvairs have four quarter panels. Back in the '60s, the 
> > quarterpanels would have been Fisher Body parts, while the fenders would 
> > be 
> > division parts. 
> > 
> > Norm 
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message----- 
> >> From: Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per [mailto:chaz at ProperProPer.com] 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:46 PM 
> >> To: LonzoVair at aol.com 
> >> Cc: Virtual Vairs 
> >> Subject: Re: Re: Fender blending - no Corvair 
> >> 
> >> The "bug" has always been "retro" for a variety of reason, but VW never 
> >> acceded to style, which is obvious. 
> >> People like them BECAUSE they are ugly, so much so that they became 
> >> "cute" 
> >> (the Olde English definition, perhaps ?) 
> >> 
> >> The "bug" - old and new versions - can be grouped in with the Prowler and 
> >> PT Cruiser and Chevy's new PT Cruiser clone, and many more to come, I'm 
> >> sure. But they are, or will be, "retro" and not subject to the real 
> >> evolution of car design, right ? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: LonzoVair at aol.com 
> >> To: chaz at ProperProPer.com ; airvair at richnet.net 
> >> Cc: VirtualVairs at corvair.org 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:02 AM 
> >> Subject: Re: Re: Fender blending - no Corvair 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hmmm.... me thinks narry a soul has looked at the VW Beetles, both old 
> >> and "new"... they have rear fenders... in fact, the front will fit the 
> >> rear on a "new" Beetle... 
> >> Not that it's pretty or anything... 
> >> And the original Beetle WAS designed in the early 1930s... 
> >> Oh well... 
> >> Later, 
> >> Lonzo... had 10 different VWs before getting into Corvairs in 1990... 
> >> haven't had one since! 
> >> 
> >> Lon Anderson in White Mills, KY 
> >> CORSA, Corvanatics, Derby City Corvair, Central Ky Corvair 
> >> Quart Low Quarterly Editor 
> >> 1961 Greenbrier 110/pg 
> >> 1963 Greenbrier 110/4spd 
> >> 1964 700 sedan 95/pg 
> >> 1969 Monza 110/pg 
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