<VV> Re: Fender blending - Corvair back in the loop (welded "fenders")

[Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per]

I don't think that was the argument, whether fenders are quarter panels, or 
the other way around.

I think the discussion centered on when fenders became fenders, not 
semantically, but stylistically, i.e.: when did the "fender" become 
integrated into the body's lines ?

Inarguably, the Corvair never had "fenders" per se, since the "quarter 
panels" are (very nicely) blended into the car's lines.

The part I don't like, not part of this thread actually, is that GM (?) 
decided to weld the Corvair's front quarter panels (it would be so much 
easier to have said "fenders" but I won't) into the unibody design.

I believe that the welded front panels (all of them) contributed to the high 
cost of repairing front end damage, and hence the demise of many Corvairs.

In my opinion, of course...

Chaz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Norman C. Witte" <ncwitte at wittelaw.com>
To: "'Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per'" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>; 
<LonzoVair at aol.com>
Cc: "'Virtual Vairs'" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: <VV> Re: Fender blending - no Corvair


> Ok, this horse was probably dead long ago, but in my book a quarterpanel 
> is
> part of the body itself, while a fender is a bolt-on part.  By that
> definition, Corvairs have four quarter panels.  Back in the '60s, the
> quarterpanels would have been Fisher Body parts, while the fenders would 
> be
> division parts.
>
> Norm
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per [mailto:chaz at ProperProPer.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:46 PM
>> To: LonzoVair at aol.com
>> Cc: Virtual Vairs
>> Subject: Re: <VV> Re: Fender blending - no Corvair
>>
>> The "bug" has always been "retro" for a variety of reason, but VW never
>> acceded to style, which is obvious.
>> People like them BECAUSE they are ugly, so much so that they became 
>> "cute"
>> (the Olde English definition, perhaps ?)
>>
>> The "bug" - old and new versions - can be grouped in with the Prowler and
>> PT Cruiser and Chevy's new PT Cruiser clone, and many more to come, I'm
>> sure.  But they are, or will be, "retro" and not subject to the real
>> evolution of car design, right ?
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: LonzoVair at aol.com
>>   To: chaz at ProperProPer.com ; airvair at richnet.net
>>   Cc: VirtualVairs at corvair.org
>>   Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 9:02 AM
>>   Subject: Re: <VV> Re: Fender blending - no Corvair
>>
>>
>>   Hmmm.... me thinks narry a soul has looked at the VW Beetles, both old
>> and "new"... they have rear fenders... in fact, the front will fit the
>> rear on a "new" Beetle...
>>   Not that it's pretty or anything...
>>   And the original Beetle WAS designed in the early 1930s...
>>   Oh well...
>>   Later,
>>   Lonzo... had 10 different VWs before getting into Corvairs in 1990...
>> haven't had one since!
>>
>>   Lon Anderson in White Mills, KY
>>   CORSA, Corvanatics, Derby City Corvair, Central Ky Corvair
>>   Quart Low Quarterly Editor
>>   1961 Greenbrier 110/pg
>>   1963 Greenbrier 110/4spd
>>   1964 700 sedan 95/pg
>>   1969 Monza 110/pg
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