<VV> (not just) Jiffy Lube Scam - scams in general

[Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per]

That makes a good, if tangential, point :

The "Flat rate manual" is the mechanics best friend !

The "flat rate" is supposed to take all jobs into consideration, some take 
less time, and some take more time.

However, if the job takes less time than the book says, they charge the 
"flat rate."

Then, if the job takes more time than the book says, they charge the actual 
time (without getting into whether they actually inflate that as well !)

Like when they break something they shouldn't oughta have broke !
Knowing how to avoid a problem is one reason for bringing it to "pro" but 
when they make that mistake anyway, they charge you for it anyway.

Why not ?  They have your car, which you problem need more than leaving it 
with the mechanic while you hassle over the extra charges.

Besides, what is he going to do to your car while he has it, knowing you are 
haggling over the price ?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Kepler" <jekepler at amplex.net>
To: "'Frank DuVal'" <corvairduval at cox.net>; <mygroups at frontiernet.net>
Cc: "'Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per'" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>; "'Virtual 
Vairs'" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>; <AeroNed at aol.com>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 5:48 AM
Subject: RE: <VV> Jiffy Lube Scam - scams in general


>
> How would you remove a seized spark plug?  Would you charge the same
> amount of time as a plug that comes out easily?
> Fair is fair. Time is money. Your friend wanted something for nothing.
> Doesn't sound fair to me.
>
> Does to me!
>
> Removing a "corroded" sparkplug is common enough that a competent wrench
> SHOULD be able to remove it without having to pull the head!  It's simply 
> a
> method that the "less-than-scrupulous" flat-rater uses to pad a bill! 
> FWIW,
> THIS former flat-rater uses anti-seize on ALL plugs, AND uses a torque
> wrench set at the proper value (17 ft-lbs) to install them!  This 
> eliminates
> the "problem" from occurring in the first place!
>
> John
>
>
>