<VV> Are you tired of...

[Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per]

Right !

Actually, using 2 IDs, one to sell an item, and another to bid on your own 
item, to jack the price up.
It's called "shill bidding" (or "shield bidding") and is quite frowned upon 
and can get you exiled from the eBay community if someone even accuses you 
of doing this.

I've seen many bids retracted after "exposing" the "reserve price" and eBay 
seems to allow this with the shallowest of excuses like, "I entered the 
wrong amount,' or "I forgot to enter the decimal point" !

I use eBay to see what kinds of Corvair items, from cars to model cars, and 
literature, etc, are out there, and to see if anything piques me enough to 
actually get involved.

Be careful not to get caught up in it, though, and end up bidding too high 
just because you "gotta have it" after someone else jumped you by $1, so you 
go another $1, and soon it's $50 !

Then you find out what "buyer's remorse" is all about !

It's fun if you can afford to throw money away, otherwise, snipe it !!!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Secular" <rusecular at yahoo.com>
To: "Virtual Vairs" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Are you tired of...


lol...bravo !  so, one would only outbid themselves via using two IDs :))
I'd say it's "benighted" not "counter-productive" !

any hooo, here's a brief note from the FAQ at:

http://www.esnipe.com/eSnipeFAQ/#19
  Can I outbid myself?

  No, you will not outbid yourself using eSnipe. That's because eSnipe
  doesn't determine what the bid should be. eBay does, through its
  proxy bidding mechanism. All eSnipe does is place the bid exactly
  as you would, using your user ID and password, and eBay's
  proxy bidding automatically keeps your bid as low as
  necessary to win the auction.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Lee at Proper Pro Per" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
To: "Secular" <rusecular at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Virtual Vairs" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Are you tired of...


> Use 2 IDs, but don't get caught !!!!
>
> (Kind of counter-productive, though)
>
> It's very hard to find a member's other IDs, since they are not listed in
> their "History."
>
> If someone gets bad feedback on one, simply switch to the other.  As a
> buyer, you have to watch out for that, and especially if someone "hides"
> their feedback !
>
> Mostly, I use eBay to see what my own things are worth, by looking at
> "completed" items, and seeing if it worth more to someone else ?  Enough 
> to
> part with my promo collection ?  Doubt it.  I've lugged my Corvair promos
> around with me too long to part with them now !
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Secular" <rusecular at yahoo.com>
> To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Are you tired of...
>
>
>  Excellent point...show me how that's possible in eBay :))
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J R Read_HML" <hmlinc at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Secular" <rusecular at yahoo.com>; <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:25 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Are you tired of...
>
>
>> Be careful....  You just might outbid yourself.  THAT would be foolish.
>>
>> Later, JR
>>
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