<VV> Tale of woe -- still looking for a good car

Mon Nov 6 18:14:54 EST 2006

Unfortunately this is what happens ... I complain and/or give bad 
feedback for him posing junk as a car ... and then he leaves me 
negative feedback.  I suppose I can stand it, but I'm not sure I want 
to bother.  It is a flaw in the feedback system.  They ought to keep 
feedback private until both parties have given feedback or until it 
is too late to leave "retaliation" feedback.  I once in my life gave 
negative feedback because just as I was about to ship something I 
sold I got a note from Paypal telling me not to ship because there 
was fraud on his account.  I verified this through Paypal and was 
instructed not to ship until Paypal Ok'd it.  I emailed the buyer, 
his email account was suspended.  I emailed and Paypal emailed for a 
month ... no response, account still dead.  So I left non-payment 
negative feedback.  Next day I get an email with one line "thought I 
would return the favor" ... his comment on ebay "quick to leave 
negative feedback"  Thanks, jerk.  Same would happen here.  Eric

At 01:46 PM 11/6/2006, you wrote:
>Report it to eBay!
>
>Later, JR
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric S. Eberhard" <flash at vicsmba.com>
>To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:20 PM
>Subject: <VV> Tale of woe -- still looking for a good car
>
>
>>So I won a nice little 62 Coupe on ebay.  All original, low miles, 
>>one owner, excellent shape except for the ugly seat 
>>covers.  Advertised as a daily driver.  The price was OK, not 
>>cheap, not expensive.
>>
>>I won it on Friday, and I don't like to pay anything until I see 
>>the car. So Sunday I started out with a friend on the 500 mile 
>>drive, trailer in tow and cash in hand, to pick up the car.
>>
>>Wow!  Quite a car.  I cannot believe anyone could that cleverly 
>>take pictures of a car and avoid the obvious flaws.  I don't have 
>>the time to give a complete list but:
>>RUSTY everywhere.  Very poor and old repaint over rust. Respray 
>>over everything (rubber, carpets, cardboard, whatever).  90% of all 
>>rubber missing (the rest was painted).  See through floors (the 
>>better to enjoy the view of the pavement while driving?).  He had a 
>>nice picture of a fair looking hubcap.  The rest were completely 
>>trashed and smashed.  Rear engine mount broken, shrouds missing, no 
>>engine compartment seals, crunchy suspension.  Dents everywhere the 
>>camera was not too close to in the listing.  Heater system removed 
>>(ducts in engine compartment, the body, and even the defroster 
>>ducts, etc.  No glove box.  At all.  Any empty hole.  It 
>>ran!!!!  Knocked.  Touch the brakes and one of the wheels (right 
>>front) had brakes.  Easy to turn to the right!!!!  Every piece of 
>>chrome was pitted beyond repair.  Not seat covers, it was a two 
>>buck re-upholstery ... they did not use new buns but apparently 
>>used old packing foam to cram under the covers, leaving bare metal 
>>bulging up the cloth.
>>
>>It was so bad that if he had offered to give it to me, I would have 
>>refused.  SO I got to drive back 500 miles with an empty 
>>trailer.  Joy joy.  I have never seen a car to badly misrepresented 
>>as this one.  Pure JUNK. It practically screamed "RUN, DON'T WALK!"
>>
>>The only thing that could have been worse would have been if I 
>>actually paid money for that fright pig!!!!!!  I have purchased all 
>>of my existing Corvairs on ebay, all pleasant experiences, so I was 
>>not prepared for this at all.  To really round out the day, he was 
>>mad at ME!!!!  After I drove 1,000 miles round trip for no 
>>reason.  I could see him not noticing a few things (his excuse was 
>>he was not Corvair expert) but the missing glove box with old 
>>ducting and wiring hanging down, the bad brakes, and the see 
>>through floors are really hard to miss, even for non-experts!
>>
>>Still looking ...
>>
>>This email sent by:
>>
>>Eric S. Eberhard
>>(928) 567-3727          Voice
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>>
>>928-301-7537 -- you may call any time day or night, I turn it off 
>>when I sleep :-)  Please try to use a land line first (reception often poor).
>>
>>Note the change in the domain from vicspdi.com to vicsmba.com !!!!
>>
>>For Metropolis support and VICS MBA Support!!!!
>>
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>>
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>>
>>Corvair pictures including the Judson setup on our 62 Sedan and 
>>lots of pictures of Cheryl's 62 Monza Wagon and our 62 Spyder convertible.
>>
>>http://www.vicsmba.com/ourpics/corvairs.html
>>
>>My younger brother Martin has started a very serious car 
>>company.  A hot rod (very fast) electric roadster is the first 
>>offering.  The chassis is built by Lotus to their specs.  Check it 
>>out:  http://www.teslamotors.com
>>
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This email sent by:

Eric S. Eberhard
(928) 567-3727          Voice
(928) 567-6122          Fax

928-301-7537 -- you may call any time day or night, I turn it off 
when I sleep :-)  Please try to use a land line first (reception often poor).

Note the change in the domain from vicspdi.com to vicsmba.com !!!!

For Metropolis support and VICS MBA Support!!!!

http://www.vicsmba.com

Completely updated web site of personal pictures with many new 
pictures!  Includes horses, dogs, Corvairs, and more.

http://www.vicsmba.com/ourpics/index.html

Corvair pictures including the Judson setup on our 62 Sedan and lots 
of pictures of Cheryl's 62 Monza Wagon and our 62 Spyder convertible.

http://www.vicsmba.com/ourpics/corvairs.html

My younger brother Martin has started a very serious car company.  A 
hot rod (very fast) electric roadster is the first offering.  The 
chassis is built by Lotus to their specs.  Check it 
out:  http://www.teslamotors.com