In a message dated 1/3/2006 8:42:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, AeroNed at aol.com writes: Bob, Tire Rack has the Kumho R700 in 195/70QR13 with a blackwall. Ned Ned - Those are performance RALLY tires. They are intended for off-road competition use only. They have no warrantee. Maybe for winter driving in the back woods? Chasing Deer? <grin> - Seth