<VV> 64-69 Generator - Issue 47, Msg 3,4,5,7

Ron ronh at owt.com
Wed Feb 15 14:46:38 EST 2006


Very interesting, thank you.
RonH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WillSmithTFPOCAllenTexas" <TheFreshPrinceofCorvair at comcast.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:39 AM
Subject: <VV> 64-69 Generator - Issue 47, Msg 3,4,5,7


> Thanks to everyone for your help on the Integral Regulator Conversion 
> wiring. I now have what I needed.
>
> Now let me blow your mind with info I used to present daily while teaching 
> Charging Systems at the GM Training Center for GM Dealer Mechanics [it was 
> more than most of them wanted, too]. Actually the 64-69 Corvairs came OEM 
> with a Generator...it was a High Output at Low RPM Diode Rectified 
> Generator with 13+v DC output...it produced alternating current that was 
> rectified back to DC via Diodes [when Chrysler introduced theirs in the 
> early 60s they called it an 'Alternator' for sales/marketing advantage 
> because it was so different and the Alternator moniker stuck...kind of 
> like Coke/Kleenex/Freon, etc]. The old black Generator was a Low Output at 
> Low RPM Commutator Rectified Generator with 13+v DC output...it produced 
> alternating current that was rectified back to DC via a Commutator and the 
> Brushes...the addition of air conditioning and other accessories created a 
> need for a higher electric output at idle in traffic. Everyone used the 
> Alternator moniker but a true Alternator will have AC at its output 
> terminal and GM never had such a unit on a car during the 60s and 70s when 
> I was teaching Charging Systems. GM did offer a 130a generator on some 
> trucks and on Cad Commercial Chassis [ambulances, limos, etc] that had 3 
> AC terminals on its side [because it produced 3 phase electricity just 
> like the Corvair unit does]...these could be connected to a transformer 
> that would boost the output to 110+v AC for running medical equip, saws, 
> emergency flood lights, etc. while the vehicle idled at the job 
> site/accident site/etc. The Integral Regulator Generator is just like the 
> Ext Reg unit so far as the Rotor and Stator Windings are concerned ...GM 
> just figured out a way to build a small solid state regulator and mount it 
> internally [had lots of failures from the first regulators till they 
> learned how to survive the high temps inside the generator]. Corvair 
> Generator Rotor shafts are reverse threaded because of the engine rotation 
> direction...if yours is std [ righty tighty] treaded it is not a Corvair 
> Rotor...it will Gen just fine though but the nut might loosen itself when 
> the generator is producing lots of output. [A note of little interest I'm 
> sure...a 63a Generator on a 500ci Cad at 500-600 rpm idle speed would stop 
> the engine DEAD when a full electric load test was applied...or destroy 
> the belt through slipping if it was not tight enough...it takes a LOT of 
> power to rotate a generator when it is producing high output [picture 
> hydroelectric at a dam]].
>
> Now you know more than you ever wanted to know...don't say I never told 
> you anything! Maybe you can pass it on to a Car Crazy kid.
>
> Thanks again for the help!
> Will Smith, "The Fresh Prince of Corvair"
>
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