In a message dated 2/4/2006 3:04:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, airvair at richnet.net writes: So what "new" car is THAT, Seth? A '61-7 Lincoln convert? (A friend of mine has a '67 Lincoln, and it does that too.) -Mark If a 1961 Lincoln can go 180 MPH it deserves to have the windows blow out! <grin> -Seth