<VV> Bordering Comical...Humor

[Ron]

Wrong!  I had a '67 Toro for years and I now have a Solara and Corvairs.
RonH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Lee at Prop Per" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
To: "Garth Stapon" <corvair2 at earthlink.net>
Cc: "Virtual Vairs" <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: <VV> Bordering Comical...Humor


> OK, maybe a little, but the Toronado / Eldorado target market probably 
> buys SUVs today, right ?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Garth Stapon" <corvair2 at earthlink.net>
> To: "Charles Lee at Prop Per" <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 7:28 PM
> Subject: Re: <VV> Bordering Comical...Humor
>
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>> The fact that the 425 cubic inch Tornado motor gave 10 mpg had nothing to 
>> do with its lack of success...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>From: Charles Lee at Prop Per <chaz at ProperProPer.com>
>>>Sent: Aug 13, 2006 5:53 PM
>>>To: Mike Ioanes <mioanes at woh.rr.com>
>>>Cc: Virtual Vairs <VirtualVairs at corvair.org>
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Bordering Comical...
>>>
>>>If the engine "belongs" in the front, why are (nearly) all true 
>>>performance
>>>cars rear-engined (or at least mid-engined) ?
>>>
>>>Had anyone noticed that the first American campaign for front-engined 
>>>cars
>>>were "luxury cars" (Toronado, Eldorado) were not met well by the 
>>>car-buying
>>>public, and that people opted for "normal" cars ?
>>>
>>>Then I guess "they" then decided not to give us a choice, because the 
>>>next
>>>time they tried to foist FWD on us, they gave us little choice, and all 
>>>car
>>>were, all of a sudden, front-wheel-drive.  This limited the car buyers'
>>>choice, and eventually made FWD common, and therefore acceptable.
>>>
>>>It's no different now, buyers (in 1960's) were spending a couple of grand 
>>>on
>>>a new car, and were told that there just "might" be something wrong with 
>>>the
>>>Corvair. Which car would you buy, assuming you knew as little as an 
>>>average
>>>car buyer knows about cars ?
>>>
>>>I think they realized that GM's real fault in 1960 was building a car 
>>>that
>>>was different, and figured that "this time" the new configuration (FWD)
>>>would not be different, because everyone is going to making the same 
>>>thing
>>>!!!
>>>
>>>And now all you can find are front wheel drive cars, which for the most
>>>part, understeer, which is far easier to predict than oversteer for the
>>>(less than) average driver, right ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Mike Ioanes" <mioanes at woh.rr.com>
>>>To: "Secular" <rusecular at yahoo.com>
>>>Cc: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 12:51 PM
>>>Subject: Re: <VV> Bordering Comical...
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Subject: <VV> Bordering Comical...
>>>>>snip<
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Ford unleashed TV ads that featured an arrow with a moveable head. 
>>>> The
>>>> head was supposed to be the engine. When the head was at the front of 
>>>> the
>>>> arrow, it shot straight and true. When the head was moved to the back 
>>>> of
>>>> the arrow, it was erratic. This brilliant piece of advertising nonsense
>>>> implied that a front engine car was the right way, and the Ford way. A
>>>> rear engine car was the wrong way, and the Corvair way.
>>>>
>>>> Not saying this isn't true, but what I remember form the early 60's is
>>>> similar ads by Simca (a French  product marketed by Chrysler) saying 
>>>> the
>>>> same thing.  Amazingly, or humorously, they later introduced a
>>>> rear-engined car.  A neighbor had one of their older, front-engine, 
>>>> rear
>>>> drive cars and a friend's older sister had one of the rear-engine ones.
>>>> www.centuryinter.net/Simca/
>>>>
>>>> Mike Ioanes
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