<VV> Re: GS's ABBRV.ABOUT URO OR UGL (HUMOR?) CONVENTION RELATED CORVAIR STUFF

[Louis C. Armer,Jr.]

>Now you can clarify the funny letter formations :-) :

NFTA
HSBC
LRV
PCC
BHRA = 1 OUT OF 4 :-) BROOKLYN HISTORICAL RAILWAY ASSOC.

>
>OK, I was asked about some items relating to the history of the 
>light rail and other railroad items of interest in the Buffalo area.
>At the risk of being "chastised" for an off topic 
>post.................and seeing as the subject of "sharing" came up.
>
>I had remember talk at one time of using "restored" rail cars. But 
>what I have seen didn't look like anything special.
>Here is a link to the NFTA site where you can see a picture of the 
>rail cars in use. I also found other info about the rail cars below.
>I've never rode the Buffalo system.
>I live waaaaaay out of the city in another county and if I actually 
>go downtown, I go for a specific destination like the Theater, or to 
>the HSBC arena for a concert.
>The Buffalo light rail system is for the most part a joke, I'm 
>afraid. It doesn't go where people really need to go, so ridership 
>is sparse except for the city dwellers. It goes from the University 
>of Buffalo "city" campus, to the HSBC arena. Where it should go is 
>to extend to the Amherst Campus as well, and possibly into Tonawanda 
>or Cheektowaga. Ridership has never justified the cost.
>
>http://www.nfta.com/metro/
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_Metro_Rail
>
>Fleet
>The NFTA operated 27 LRV cars (Number 101 to 127) for the Metro Rail 
>system. They were built Tokyu Car Corporation of Japan.
>
>Twelve St. Louis Car Company PCC streetcars from Cleveland, Ohio's 
>Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (obtained second had in 
>1953) were bought in 1980s to serve the Tonawanda turn-out, a Metro 
>Rail route to Tonawanda and North Tonawada. Only used for trial 
>runs, the plan route was scrapped and cars sold to a museum in 
>Brooklyn Historical Railway Association. These cars were scrapped in 
>2003 when the BHRA folded.
>
>Fleet details:
>
>Current
>
>  a.. Car Type: LRV
>  b.. Number of Cars: 27
>  c.. Fleet Numbers: 101-127
>  d.. Car Manufacturer: Tokyu Car Corporation, Japan
>  e.. Years of Service: 1984-present
>Proposed
>
>  a.. Car Type: PCC
>  b.. Number of Cars: 12
>  c.. Fleet Numbers: N/A
>  d.. Car Manufacturer: St. Louis Car Company
>  e.. Years of Service: None - trial runs only, never in revenue service
>And here is some other railroad info in the WNY area.....................
>
>http://www.anarr.com/
>
>http://www.historicbridges.org/truss/lockportrr/index.htm   This one 
>is less than 10 minutes from my house near the Erie canal locks in Lockport
>
>http://www.trainweb.org/wnyrhs/homeFrame1Source1.htm
>
>
>As long as you are a railroad fan, close to the host hotel is the 
>Central Terminal.
>
>http://www.buffalocentralterminal.org/
>
>I remembered this from a recent tour of the falls. It's long gone, 
>but I saw where it was.
>
>http://wnyheritagepress.org/photosofweek/gorgeroute/gorgeroutedetail.htm
>
>There used to be several railroads in this area as Buffalo was a 
>major railroad hub.
>Due to the decline of railroads, most have been ripped out and some 
>converted to bike paths.
>I can remember seeing the railroad yards with many trains in Buffalo.
>
>Also there used to be a trolly system From Buffalo to Olcott Beach 
>in the early 1900's
>
>At a Corvair meet in Syracuse last year we toured Martisco station, 
>a small out of the way rail museum.
>
>Picked up a book about when trains ran through the heart of Syracuse 
>sharing streets with cars..........
>
>You just got my memories going.....................
>
>Gary Swiatowy
>
>
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