<VV> Vendor Bashing

[N. Joseph Potts]

Bryan -
     The message below from JR contains what I believe may be a
misinterpretation of the monthly Guidelines post from you. JR withholds the
name of a "major vendor" he MENTIONED without IDENTIFYING because he says
the monthly post rules forbid it (as he interprets them). Now, I don't know
what stone the monthly post is engraved in (perhaps it's a text once acted
on by the board of CORSA or something), or who the Supreme Court of the
Guidelines Post might be (you? Garth?), but if you could convey to JR and me
any clarification of what constitutes "vendor bashing," I'd find it very
helpful. For my part, IN THOSE CASES where I've been moved to post reference
to a vendor who supplied me with a part, good, defective, or just having a
quirk in how it should be used, I've always identified who supplied it to
me. And with full names, not initials like C, D & L, which must be complete
gobbledegook to any newbie.
     If JR doesn't want to, he doesn't have to, but I'd prefer he said that
rather than having us understand that our rules prohibit his doing so on the
list.

Joe Potts
Miami, Florida USA

-----Original Message-----
From: J R Read_HML [mailto:hmlinc at sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:33 PM
To: N. Joseph Potts; Joe West; MarPack57 at aol.com; VV
Subject: Re: <VV> wagon on the road


Joe...

The following is clipped from Bryan's monthly post.  All VV members were
provided a copy and agreed to the terms when they joined.  Perhaps David and
Lon should review it as well?

   - We encourage vendors to post once a month to help
          our members find out about you.  Be sure to include your
          company info.
        - No vendor bashing.  If you have a great product, say why yours
          is great.  Personal attacks are expressly forbidden.

It seems to me that naming a vendor who had (at one time or another)
provided a defective product (most likely manufactured by someone else)
would fall into the "bashing" area.

If it helps you at all, I've had "instances" of defective or failed products
from C, D, & L over the past 15 or so years.  Where the $$ were high, I
asked for and received proper corrective action.  In other instances, I did
not bother.  The point is, naming the vendor in this instance (or any
particular instance) does not really help anyone (vendor OR vendee).  On a
MC, it COULD be (and I don't know the particulars) simply a matter of
incorrect installation procedure and not a defective product at all.

Attachments (if any) are scanned with anti-virus software.

Later, JR

----- Original Message -----
From: "N. Joseph Potts" <pottsf at msn.com>
To: "Joe West" <joew at diveaz.com>; <MarPack57 at aol.com>; "VV"
<virtualvairs at corvair.org>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: <VV> wagon on the road


> Ed -
>     Please name the major vendor that supplied you with two bad master
> cylinders. You MENTIONED the vendor generally and the bad cylinders on the
> list, so in fairness to the major vendor(s) that did NOT supply you with
> two
> bad master cylinders, you should post the name of the one that did to the
> list.
>
> Joe Potts
> Miami, Florida USA
> 1966 Corsa coupe 140hp 4-speed with A/C
>