<VV> RE: Ethanol? filter problems?

[Mark Noakes]

Interesting on your no starting problems down to below 0 degrees; that has not been my experience.

All our company vehicles at Oak Ridge National Laboratoy run on E85.  When the temperature drops to 25F or so, they won't start...at all...till it warms up.  The remedy is to mix in more gasoline until the weather improves, which wouldn't work in more northern areas.

GM vehicles don't seem to have trouble with the fuel; Fords most definitely do and have a higher maintenance cost associated with them from my discussion with the guys in the shop.

Also the "gas" mileage is much lower with the E85 though the cost is higher.

Mark Noakes

----- Original Message -----
From: corsaconvertible <corsaconvertible at gmail.com>
To: virtualvairs at corvair.org
Subject: Re: <VV> RE: Ethanol? filter problems?
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 23:59:44 -0500

> 
> I've used ethanol in everything exclusively, when available, since
> 1974. Several cars have over 100,000 miles on them with ethanol.  No
> problems, all cars were daily drivers, just preventive extra fuel
> filter changes for awhile. Many people have purchased ethanol
> unknowingly when they bought high octane gas.
> 
> All cars have started within a couple seconds at below 0 degrees
> Fahrenheit to over 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Gas mileage when checked
> always was in the same range as people I've asked with the same type
> of car.
> 
> Cars include 1955 T'Bird, '65 Corvair Corsa, 1975 Cosworth Vega, '64
> Buick Skylark, 1998 and 2001 Olds Aurora, 1995 LHS, 1992 Riviera, 1991
> Lexus SC 400 , 1970 Camaro, 1979 Dodge full size van, 1981 Ford
> conversion van, 1991 Taurus, 1992 Toyota Previa, 1995 Taurus SHO.
> 
> 1973 Vega need was an exception, it needed a new carburetor float.
> 
> Riding and push mowers, 1970 Kawasaki Bushmaster.
> 
> BTW, I'm not a farmer. My daughter was born in Orange county
> California which was my home for 13 years. Raised and presently live
> in Iowa.
> 
> --
> Tony Hansen
> corsaconvertible at gmail.com
> 
> On 6/17/05, werp knarly <werpknarly at centurytel.net> wrote:
> > yes we may have to deal with the "crud" left in our fuel systems from
> > burning crude oil based fuel... but should ethanol be blamed for cleaning up
> > what gasoline left behind?
> >
> > and yes the farmers will be happy,, but best of all...
> >
> > the oil companies and the mid east countries wont be happy
> >
> > btw, today ethanol is cheaper than gasoline.  and even if it is a bit more
> > money per mile driven,,,, the oil companies and the mid east countries wont
> > be happy
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <mopar at jbcs2.net>
> > To: <virtualvairs at corvair.org>
> > Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 11:06 AM
> > Subject: <VV> RE: Ethanol?
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Back in the 70's during the first energy crisis, I tried a few tankfulls
> > > of
> > > "gasahol' blend. Paid more per gallon than the regular, then had it go
> > > through the cars like guanno through a ducks behind. Also had to change
> > > fuel filters on most cars as it seemed to have a tendancy to clean any
> > > debris out of the tank. One car I had to use air pressure to blow off the
> > > sock on the fuel pickup.
> > >
> > > I'm not looking forward to it..............
> > >
> > > Sure the Corn industry wants to see it, so does the sugar cane industry.
> > > Not that it's a good thing though, there is money and lobbyists behind
> > > this!
> > >
> > > Gary Swiatowy
> > > how soon they forget..........
> 
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