<VV> Re: [VV-talk] Iacocca and Chrysler?

[Chris C, Warwick RI]

Saw a new charger yesterday at the ice cream shop.  Cruise was rained 
out.  Not thrilled, bad re-use of name.  I think with a different name, may 
even like it.  Not enough to pay for one.

The wife thought it was cool.  So ugly its cute. Explains here attraction 
to me.



At 09:13 PM 7/19/2005, you wrote:
>At 03:01 hours 07/18/2005, Bill Elliott wrote:
>
>>Creed is right in the fact that younger folks would just as soon have a 4 
>>door....
>
>
>However:
>
>Most of them have bought into the 4-door mystique because that's what 
>they've been told for going on two decades now.    Most everything that's 
>been available has been designed and marketed by beancounters.   It's 
>cheaper to tool up for one basic body style; and nobody wanted to go with 
>strictly 2-door cars, so it was all 4-doors or nothing.
>
>Thus, people bought the cars they were told they should buy...   most of 
>them anyway.
>
>
>The rest  bought Japanese or Korean cars if they wanted a coupe.    Or, 
>they paid out the ass for a Viper or a Corvette.    Meanwhile, Mustangs 
>kept on selling and selling...  today they're all over the place.   And 
>now, the 2005 Mustang is taking over.
>
>Trevor Creed is a beancounter.    It's blinded him to an entire market 
>that seems to have been abandoned these days by US car makers.   Well, not 
>all of them; Ford has an inkling of smarts here and they're really moving 
>those Mustangs out the door.
>
>Why the other domestic car makers don't see this remains a bit of a mystery.
>
>
>>I really think that it's a factor that when _we_ were young, most of the top
>>performance cars were all "sports" and "sports GT" cars... with the more 
>>recent platforms (read: front wheel drive) there simply isn't the 
>>performance deficit
>>in the sedans and younger folks don't have the built in prejudices that 
>>we do because of that.
>
>
>...because they all have been "told" what to buy, by the auto 
>makers.   They never knew any better.   It's all fine and good, it's a 
>free country... but other people (like me) might not necessarily *want* a 
>4-door sedan to play with.    I already have more than one 4-door 
>(  ;)  )  so if I were to somehow get rich and decide to buy a new car, 
>it's not real likely that I'd go out and buy yet another 4-door 
>sedan.    What if I wanted a sports coupe...?
>
>No malleable brains here; the dealer salesman isn't gonna convince me that 
>what I really need is yet another 4-door car.
>
>
>>HOWEVER, I doubt the younger crowd is the target customer for the 
>>Charger... and we old geezers won't touch it....
>
>Thus, the new "charger" will sit on showroom floors.
>
>
>...until it gets restyled and/or becomes available as a coupe.   It offers 
>up nothing that the Magnum doesn't offer, and the Magnum looks better and 
>is cheaper.
>
>
>>The new Mustang is VASTY superior to the model that it replaced... I 
>>could actually see myself driving one. Almost.
>
>If I were in the market for a new car to "play" with, it would be that 
>Mustang.   Frankly, anything else in the same category would be too 
>expensive or plain ugly.
>
>
>>I can't say the same thing about the Charger... or even the GTO (which I 
>>really WANT to like...)
>
>
>Well, if it were only an American car...   and not nearly as expensive as 
>an entry level Corvette.   And still there are more 'Vettes being sold 
>than the new Aussie GTO.
>
>
>>... the only new American car that even comes close to
>>enticing me is the CTS-V.... thank goodness it's so ugly...
>
>
>...reminds me of the Aztek...
>
>
>>I'll keep driving my old stuff....
>
>
>
>...as will I.
>
>
>tony..
>
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